You own a Lambo. Do you let your 5-year-old son attempt a speed record
 

Unreal

http://www.crash.net/wsbk/news/1053775/1/kenan-sofuoglus-five-year-old-son-breaks-world-speed-record-194mph

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I didn't watch the video, but seems like a very bad idea. Even if a kid that age has/had the reflexes, strength, knowledge/experience, etc.... to be in the various situations that could result from that sort of activity, he doesn't have the size (leg length, arm length, etc...). He also doesn't have the other things, strength, knowledge, experience, etc....

What the???? That's just not right. Some guy let's a 5yo drive his Lambo, but does anyone let me drive their McLaren? Nooooo, they do not.

And all because I once tagged a Jeep while parking. *Roll eyes*

Seems like that would violate child endangerment laws

Have not looked at the video, but it sounds like a rich guy with more money than brains that really doesn't value his kids life and is looking for some bragging rights.

A modern lambo is a lot safer in how it handles than what those of us driving "common" cars might realize.
Maybe there is practice involved and this wasn't done out of the blue.

In racing 5 YO's are running restrictor plates around here.
Racing is a bit different as it is wheel to wheel and no 5YO I've observed has yet developed what it takes if things go squirrely in a Bandelaro at ~40MPH let alone knocking on 200MPH.

This is a testament to the car's ability to handle itself.

Given how dad raced motorcycles, I’m not too surprised. Nuts though. Kinda scary too to think about all his practice at 5 and possibly even 4 yrs old.

So is this a testament to how good of a driver this 5 yo is or how nannified today’s super cars are that even a child can drive them at the limit?

Ken you imagine if you heard someone boast that his kid broke the kids speed record? Dumazz an an arf. Its like a curse around their neck forever.

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5 years old? Totally irresponsible!

Most annoyingly, stuff like this is about $clicks$.

Stupid….

Not sure about a Lambo, but I know as a 5 year old I couldn't reach the pedals in the 356 or see over the dash when sitting in the pilots seat...

I think it’s awesome.

To those who think this is ‘stooped’, what age do you think top level athletes should start training?

15? 18? 21?

The reality is that most top level skiers, swimmers, racers, dirt bike racers, equestrian riders are already competing at 5 or 6. Their parents take calculated risks to make this happen. By 10 or 12 years old, it’s too late to catch up.

Also I have no idea if he or dad was running the throttle.

It's about the Nannies. I've got 3 grandsons, 8, 5, and 2. Neither of the two older boys should have been put into that situation at 5. At 5 you are lacking in many, many things.

It's one thing to have a kid in some sort of kart at 5. It's something else entirely to have a kid in a 3000+ pound car going nearly 200 mph at 5.

I think this is the kid.

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Irresponsible, period.

Was a custom seat fabricated for the smaller statue of the child?
Any accommodation for his inability to reach the pedals?
Is a fire suppression system installed? Does the child have the wherefore all to operate it in an emergency?

Yea kids ride dirt bikes but the difference between an European super car and a 50 cc dirt bike is night and day.

Regardless of how safe the car is or it can drive itself this is purely a selfish act on the part of the “parent.”

I wouldn’t watch the video for the sole reason a child’s life was in danger and the stunt should never have occurred.

. . . yes driving 194 MPH is dangerous, especially a 5 year old child doing it alone.

EDIT: Even with a custom seat to accommodate the child’s small stature, could he even see over the steering wheel?

My after sleeping thoughts were this,
If a kid that age can handle a bicycle on hills then driving a modern Lamborghini in a straight line given the same level of training and dedication isn't all that harder.

Having driven a Ferrari F8, I'd put 40MPH in a go kart on a track with barriers as more risky than straight lining this Lamborghini on a long stretch of nowhere.

My one objection is putting it out there on the internet.
There's a lot of tragedy out there chasing child records.
Better to do this in quiet, and have their own moments.

Regardless what safety precautions were taken, I'm sure a child's body can't take high g loads in a crash anywhere near what an adult can

Also a child isn't mentally developed enough to have any understanding of the dangers involved to make an informed decision about the risks

Donuts around a car park and slow speed drifting hell yea but high speed driving no way!

Based on the "short" video that I posted above of the kid in the ferrari, it did look like things were done to put the kid in the correct position and give him the capability to drive the car. I don't think that makes it much better.
Yes, the kid is fine at 194mph in the car as long as everything is going well.

What about when something unexpected happens like in the 911 turbo in the following video? How strong is the kid's neck in a helmet when the car is rolling end over and in barrel rolling at 190mph?

This was a prepared late model 911 TT. If a tire blows or something else unexpected happens at speed, all of the nannies in the world won't save you from physics.
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Exactly.

Instead of nowhere a better set of words from me would have been wide open.

I was in more danger my first time on a bicycle down a steep hill with ditches rocks and trees to stop me if I went off course; than a car running along a cleared place meant to bring planes to earth safely at night.

There are far riskier things 5YO's do but because we're used to letting 5YO's do them there isn't the shock value.

192 mph = 284 fps

There is a small area of the brain that alerts us to physical danger to ourselves. In boys and young men, that area is inactive. Activity in that area typically starts in men's early twenties. Frankly, this is consistent with my own recollection of being a young man.

Crashes at any decent speed have frightening survivability rates. I think at 50 mph it's something like 50%. At 70 mph, survival is considerably less likely.

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Some people simply do not understand physics. For example, people who tailgate at 70 mph.

I get the straight line speed, but the doughnuts with people around was a bit much.
The father must have been controlling the brakes and gas?

Nope, if you watch the video that I posted of the kid driving the ferrari, the father is actually the young guy that's not in the car. The kid takes an older guy for a ride on a track and then does donuts, but the guy is in the pass seat just sitting there, no way to work the pedals from the pass seat.

You've got to give it to the kid, he looks like he's already better than the average mustang GT driver. :D LOL.

Just too funny not to quote this :D

Seeing the kid's pedigree, I'm sure his father had him riding stuff before he could walk.

My goodness i'd want my face hidden too if i killed a friggin giraffe.

That's my take as well. Sad.

Not mentioned yet is the male need to top the last thing. Where on earth does this kid go from here?

Yeah, I don't get trophy hunting.

I believe I've heard about places where when you kill something, the meat goes to locals. I guess that would be OK, assuming the kill isn't just for a stuffed head on your wall or something. I believe I've also read that huge sums are paid, and in some cases, some of the money goes to local stuff (although I doubt how much of it is true vs how much is just lining someone's pockets). But I don't know.

I'm OK with hunting for meat. I'm OK with hunting where there's a problem with over population. I'm not OK with it if the only point is bragging rights and none of the previous items are involved. Like the folks that kill a rhino and then cut off the horn and leave it to rot.

Still, a 5 yo going nearly 200 is only safe as long as nothing goes wrong.

No doubt brings in a ton of money. I have zero faith it helps locals. I do recall reading some time back that the most success in preserving many African mammals was allowing regulated hunting. This brought economic value greater than the cost (ie elephants decimated crops, etc) and thus ensured the survival of the species. But i just cannot wrap my head around trophy hunting something you will not eat. Especially something as docile and limited in population as a giraffe.

I LOVE killing and grilling but for me killing and walking away or kiling and mounting...just not in my DNA i guess.

Apologies for the sidebar on this. Back to the crazy rich guy who puts his kid at risk for youtube views.

The silver lining is that the father is no stranger to speed. So he likely did what he could to bolter the safety of the kid.

The father (Keenan Sofuoglu)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenan_Sofuo%C4%9Flu
https://www.cycleworld.com/sport-rider/sidi-breaks-new-record-with-kenan-sofuoglu/

Kenan's also WSBK rider and current points leader Toprak Razgatlioglu's manager. If you've never heard of Toprak, check him out on YouTube. His bike handling skills are next level and he has the personality of Vale Rossi. Just brings so much fun to the sport.


(Toprak rides BMW's now, this is him on the Yammie a couple of years ago, but you get the idea...

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Why do you think the giraffe is dead?

Well the guy holding its head has a rifle on his back. And the giraffes head is not looking up.

Suppose could be a dart thing to knock the giraffe out for medical testing or some such thing?

Yes, maybe, but how is being held up? Gotta be a 1 ton animal.

good question! is that a brown post to the left of the little girls legs?

I just did a picture search. It's dead. Family photo. My kids would have been crying. Who kills a frigging giraffe!

I finally saw video of the kid doing the run at least, the first few seconds and last second or two. Dad was in the car with him. Still, if there'd been a mechanical issue at 190mph or even 150mph, they'd have both been in for a potentially, very bad ride.