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Tobra 09-25-2024 11:08 AM

Ordering Mann filter and crush washers, what else should I get
 
It is not even $20, what else should I get?

I was thinking about it, and why not just use a bucket to catch the oil out of the tank? If it comes out that fast, seems like a bucket would be the way to go, instead of one of those drain pans.

stevej37 09-25-2024 11:20 AM

Fumoto oil drain valve
Regulate the oil flow when changing the oil.

Noah930 09-25-2024 11:33 AM

Usually buckets are tall. Oil drain pans are shallow. Not a lot of space underneath a car. But if you've got a lift or tall jackstands, then a bucket could work, too.

GH85Carrera 09-25-2024 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12327353)
Fumoto oil drain valve
Regulate the oil flow when changing the oil.

This.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1727292705.jpg

It allows me to slow the rush of oil to a level my drain catch basin can keep up. When I close the valve, I add a metal "zip" tie to add belts and suspenders protection, so it can't open up. I just clip it off and open the valve to drain the tank.

jhynesrockmtn 09-25-2024 11:44 AM

I picked this up used several years ago.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1727293449.jpg

herr_oberst 09-25-2024 11:45 AM

Long funnel

stevej37 09-25-2024 11:46 AM

Here's a pic of one...$18 on ebay.
Of course, the valve sits vertically on the 911
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/0MUAA...Vt/s-l500.webp

fastfredracing 09-25-2024 11:52 AM

Air cooled car? Yes, I use a 5 gallon stand up drain under the sump, and a 5 gallon bucket under the tank . A lof of oil comes out pretty fast . I seem to make the least amount of a mess this way .
If your oil is hot, it can overwhemm a drain pan with a closed top like that shallow black pan shown.
A box of nitrile gloves ?

speeder 09-25-2024 12:49 PM

The issue with a 5 gallon bucket isn’t catching the oil but transferring it into the jugs you will use to transport the used oil to Autozone or the recycling place you use. There is also a greater risk of spillage if it’s full and heavy and you’re sliding it out from under the car.

Jerry’s set-up is the gold standard if you have a lift but for doing it on the floor, the best is a really large pan with a spout and curved up sides to prevent splatter when a strong stream of liquid is dumping into it. You can make anything work if you’re careful but I’m not a fan of the closed top pans with the hole in the middle. Those are only good for a small stream. I deal with diesels that have anywhere from 2 to 4 gallons, (not quarts), of hot oil in them and I like to drain it hot and fast.

Which brings me to my last opinion, (I’m obsessed with maintenance). I’m not a fan of Fumoto valves even though they are great for draining a small amount of oil if you accidentally overfill it or you need a sample for lab testing. When I change oil, I want it to drain as fast as possible and really wash any dirt on the bottom of the pan with it. Fumotos drain too slowly and actually protrude into the pan too far to allow all oil to drain. Just look at the photo above. I bought a vehicle with one once and immediately removed it. Not a big deal if you change oil ahead of time and it never gets very dirty but I’m way too OCD for them. YMMV.

Arizona_928 09-25-2024 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12327353)
Fumoto oil drain valve
Regulate the oil flow when changing the oil.

I put one on everything I own. I'll use a clear hose when attaching them to Gen-sets. Those are painfully slow but worth it to have control of the flow...

1990C4S 09-25-2024 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 12327416)
The issue with a 5 gallon bucket isn’t catching the oil but transferring it into the jugs you will use to transport the used oil to Autozone or the recycling place you use. There is also a greater risk of spillage if it’s full and heavy and you’re sliding it out from under the car.

You pour the 5 gallon pail into the oil pan shown in post #4. That pan has a spout for pouring the oil back into the jug.

Tobra 09-25-2024 01:53 PM

Denis, I agree that hot oil draining quickly is the way to go, the valve creates a bottle neck and is not magnetic.

Fred, boxes of gloves at the office

I like the car on jack stands for most maintenence. I was looking for a key blank too, but do not want a light or a 917 style key. Thought the group might have suggestions regarding small items. Maybe some of the plastic clips that hold the door cards in place

speeder 09-25-2024 02:12 PM

Here is a picture of the type of pan I use, no reason to add another step wrt pouring a 5 gallon bucket into a pan and then into a jug. I use the 4 or 5 quart jugs the new oil came in to carry the old oil. You obviously want it in a sealed, leak-proof container.

These are the best although my local Autozone stopped stocking them…I have dedicated ones for coolant and dirty oil:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1727302317.jpg

porsche930dude 09-25-2024 02:28 PM

You guys change your oil too much

pwd72s 09-25-2024 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 12327467)
Here is a picture of the type of pan I use, no reason to add another step wrt pouring a 5 gallon bucket into a pan and then into a jug. I use the 4 or 5 quart jugs the new oil came in to carry the old oil. You obviously want it in a sealed, leak-proof container.

These are the best although my local Autozone stopped stocking them…I have dedicated ones for coolant and dirty oil:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1727302317.jpg

Me too. Not that exact one, but similar style...

john70t 09-25-2024 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12327353)
Fumoto oil drain valve

Probably 15-18lbs. Just don't over-tighten or it will snap off at 30lbs: https://www.4runners.com/threads/new-fumoto-oil-drain-valve-broke-during-install.34520/

Some require 33 or 44lbs (probably the semi or industrial types): https://help.fumotousa.com/en-us/Knowledge/article/3018/How_much_should_I_torque_my_Fumoto_product

TimT 09-25-2024 03:56 PM

Quote:

You guys change your oil too much
^^^

This LOL

A930Rocket 09-25-2024 03:59 PM

I’ve been using one of those for the past 40 years. Looks the same, except mine doesn’t have the threaded tip at the end. I bought it from the Snap On or Matco guy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 12327467)


Baz 09-25-2024 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 12327455)
Fred, boxes of gloves at the office


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Tobra 09-25-2024 05:34 PM

I, like most here, already own a bucket.

No reason to buy stuff I do not need.

So no suggestions on other stuff I should buy from our host? That was the primary reason for starting this thread.

rwest 09-25-2024 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 12327607)
I, like most here, already own a bucket.

No reason to buy stuff I do not need.

So no suggestions on other stuff I should buy from our host? That was the primary reason for starting this thread.

Maybe buy more than one so next time you don’t need to do another order?

How about a set of nuts, washers and gaskets for your next valve adjustment?

When was the last time you did shift rod bushings, maybe buy those?

Spark plugs?

Light bulbs?

Any special tools you need?

Fuel filter or air filter?

Noah930 09-25-2024 06:22 PM

A fee years ago I bought about 8 oil filters from our host because I was cheap and wanted to get free shipping. I was actually a bit embarrassed. Then Mahle switched from being made in Austria to China, so I've been happily whittling away at my stash.

Odds and ends: Those little white plastic clips that fit into the sunroof? The little plastic rods that actuate the power doorlocks? Shift rod bushings? Steering wheel bushing? Those things always crumble with time.

Tobra 09-25-2024 07:22 PM

Good suggestions. Maybe stock up on filters before they start making Mann out of chinesium

1990C4S 09-26-2024 06:12 AM

Wiper blades.

herr_oberst 09-26-2024 06:29 AM

relays.....osram bulbs.....blinker fluid

Billiam 911 2.8 09-26-2024 09:15 AM

Someone installed a sump cover with no drain plug on my car. This makes oil changes more difficult. I am going to buy a new sump cover. Oil changes are one of a handful of things I can still do on my car. Good thing at today's shop rates.

Tobra 09-26-2024 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 12327810)
Wiper blades.

Ha, like I drive it in the rain

They have numerous options for valve cover gasket kits, is one better than the other

911 Rod 09-26-2024 11:00 AM

Just double up the order for the next time.

To me those valves are the equivalent of using and adjustable wrench to get the drain plug out. It works until it doesn't.


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