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masraum 11-12-2024 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 12346622)
Yeah, she was holding the 4"or 6"bit of glass at about a 33 degree angle and scraping the surface. Disclaimer: I haven't tried it myself, but her and the job she was doing looked pretty darn good.

I think a hand planer would leave tiger stripes on the surface as it takes a fair bit off.

I would be concerned with the glass chipping. Then I'd be concerned that is cut myself or the glad would be embedded in the wood.

A smoother (size 3 or 4) hand plane can take super fine shavings (measured in the single digit thousandths of an inch) and leave a smooth surface with no stripes if it's setup correctly and sharp.

masraum 11-12-2024 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12346679)
I wonder why she didn't just use a regular steel cabinet scraper card?

Interesting concept, though. I might have to give it a try one day.

I'm guessing the glass doesn't require you to know how to get an edge on a scraper which is probably tough for the average Joe.

masraum 11-12-2024 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by zakthor (Post 12355723)
Started with the benches so practice before the main event.

80 wasnt enough so tried 50 and finally 36 grit. The 36 tears up the wood but makes good progress. For giggles i brought surface up through the grits 50, 80, 120, 180 then 220 on random orbital. Surface ends up feeling like a slab of steel.

But I had to take a lot more wood off a bench to get to the bottom of some hatchet marks (that were there when it was new), and i uncovered a huge void. Tried to fill with epoxy but it would need gallons. And realized one side of the bench is constructed around that big void. Next i poured 12 oz in, taped the hole and inverted bench, next morning it was a surface. I need to wait some days for it to cure.

Today i started on the table with the 36 and it went so fast, maybe 30 minutes and the big gouge is gone. Started on the 50 but it was my last belt and it wore out so more tomorrow.

Really something how much harder sapwood is than the regular stuff. Can see the big gouge in original pic is gone now.

Whats neat is once material is removed each grit takes a few minutes. Check carefully that i got all the scratches then swap belts.

Cant wait to try the osmo. I called them and guy recommended the extra thin fir first coat, then a layer of gloss polyx.

Edit: oh and i forgot to say wow the sanding frame is great. It aggressively sands any rises, ignores low spots so table is much more flat than when i started. Sanding frame good!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1731302983.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1731302983.jpg

Looks and sounds like a great journey that's giving you great results. I can't wait to see the finished product.

911 Rod 11-12-2024 05:35 AM

Makes me want to find stuff I can sand!

zakthor 11-14-2024 11:08 AM

Wiped the benches down with mineral spirits, let dry then painted on the coat of the extra thin clear. Let sit an hour and gave it a wipe. Wooo! This is pretty excellent. So much color. Some of the grain is doing a 3d thing.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1731614657.jpg

Tempted to do the table too asap but figure i should stick with the plan and see the benches through first. Tomorrow the benches will get a coat of the polyx gloss.

zakthor 11-16-2024 03:16 PM

Benches came out great.

First coat of extra thin went on great. Dried great. Waited 24 hours and applied a thin coat of the polyx gloss. Temp fell down to 40 or so. Checked it 4 hours later and it was pretty goopy. Put a fan on it overnight but in the morning it was the same puddles of sticky.

Ive seen this before, coating isnt being accepted.

I got out the mineral oil and wiped as much off as i could.

Was it going to be fine and im just an impatient scaredy cat? No idea.

Good news its a lovely surface, is just so smooth. Good news its drying well now even on a dark and rainy 45f day. Bad news theres some shiny sections where the stuff did dry and it resists my scrubbing with mineral oil.

Reading folks say this happens sometimes with oily hardwoods, especially after the first coat theres no more pores to stick to and it lies on the surface. I thought it worked great for the benches, not sure why the table gave me guff.

Ill look with fresh eyes in the summer, sand and re-apply if its needed.

Bad light right now. Can kind of see the shiny scabs in the first pic.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1731801783.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1731801783.jpg

This whole project was a lot easier than i expected. Bummer that the finish failed at the very end. Maybe ill learn something from it.

Now wait 2-3 weeks to cure and we can start wrecking it with curry and beer.

For kicks heres the before and after

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1731802266.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1731802266.jpg

TimT 11-16-2024 03:39 PM

Looks really nice..

I can't help but think the temperatures affected the outcome of the finish.. Try and apply some heat if you can

Bill Douglas 11-16-2024 10:09 PM

It looks fantastic. Well done. Yeah, give it time to cure :)

Shaun @ Tru6 11-17-2024 04:39 AM

Beautiful transformation, great job!

zakthor 05-27-2025 05:29 AM

Ok its finally warm again in seattle and surface has had time to reflect on its misdeeds.

I sanded the surface off the table and benches with 220, wiped with mineral spirits, then a day apart i applied a pair of thin coats of the osmo extra clear using microfiber towel.

Maybe 20 minutes to sand and 20 minutes total to wipe the stuff on/off. Im happy with it. The extra clear finish is nice and drys fast so im not even going to try the polyx.

Im very happy with how little time it took to redo the coating - exactly what i wanted.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1748351897.jpg

Surface feels fantastic but wow with the wiping i am noticing all the dust that settles on it every day. Now just got to christen the thing with a lamb curry and beers.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1748352420.jpg

rfuerst911sc 05-27-2025 08:08 AM

Very nice work . Congratulations

zakthor 05-27-2025 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 12471790)
One trick I've read of is to lightly wet the surface of raw wood and sand at a ~45deg with fine sandpaper to knock that down.
Can't think too much into it. Looks great!

By 3d I mean its an optical illusion from the coating refracting differently into each eye. The surface is smooth like a piece of glass.

masraum 05-27-2025 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by zakthor (Post 12471635)
Ok its finally warm again in seattle and surface has had time to reflect on its misdeeds.

I sanded the surface off the table and benches with 220, wiped with mineral spirits, then a day apart i applied a pair of thin coats of the osmo extra clear using microfiber towel.

Maybe 20 minutes to sand and 20 minutes total to wipe the stuff on/off. Im happy with it. The extra clear finish is nice and drys fast so im not even going to try the polyx.

Im very happy with how little time it took to redo the coating - exactly what i wanted.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1748351897.jpg

Surface feels fantastic but wow with the wiping i am noticing all the dust that settles on it every day. Now just got to christen the thing with a lamb curry and beers.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1748352420.jpg

Spectacular! It's beautiful. Congrats!


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