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john70t 11-04-2024 07:11 AM

The pitfalls of AI
 
1) PRIVACY.
Every time I pop in a DVD:
I'm forced to watch a 15 second screen about how copying and/or distributing Intellectual Property, even without economic gain, can result in 5 years imprisonment plus a $250k fine per incident.
Enforced by the US Government.

-There has been up to a $111 Million IP judgement: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=859689 in one case
-And $80k/song in another citizen: https://phys.org/news/2010-11-million-dollar-verdict-music-piracy-case.html

Meanwhile, it's standard practice by both tech companies and the government to automatically 'back up' all user information onto 'the cloud'.
(There isn't even an opt-out option...)
That includes communications with doctors and lawyers and children and financial institutions and business partners.
That doesn't include talking about yoga classes and grandchildren.

Apple iPhones take a photo of the user every 7 seconds for 'training' without previous disclosure. Many computers might demand a fingerprint. This bio-metric data being out in the open presents a risk whenever other security systems depend on it. Even new automobiles are equipped with microphones and analyzing conversations within one's own vehicle or sweeping up personal phone data. Ford recently filed a patent on it. My city water meter uses a company proud of their 'profiles' and tracking daily habits within an abode. I suspect the electric company already does it.
There are many many more examples.

There are very few laws limiting ingrained stalking and surveillance.
But how can the line be drawn?
Some people might want to be coddled from dawn to dusk (many do actually)

At the very least, I would propose a claim that a person's habits and retained profile be considered IP, to be controlled by themselves.



2) PRACTICALITY.
AI is not working, as-is. Most browsers and computers can't even speel check common words or find simple historic references. It will make jokes about men but not about women. Same with political candidates or protected classes whatever that might be. There is an inherent bias built into existing AI being constructed in it's infancy.

Most search engines repeat the same repeated website results for two or three pages and then return 100,000 pages of garbage results. Even the primary search words used are turned into fantasy connections. Boolean has become completely lost.

You don't jack up a car with a boroscope or soap.
A tool which doesn't function for it's intended purpose is not a tool at all.


3) ENERGY USE
Rumor on the street is: Microsoft is restarting nuclear 3-Mile Island to power it's new servers. Company is shifting focus. And Google is doing the same. So it's a data collection arms race. Damn the torpedoes.

AI uses 10x the electricity as a basic search:
(that's not any 'save the earth' thing going on ober der)
https://medium.com/@martareyessuarez25/using-artificial-intelligence-consumes-ten-times-more-electricity-than-a-traditional-google-search-cc1a420a747c
According to the founder of Digiconomist, Alex de Vries, if all Google searches are answered with artificial intelligence, the electricity would be equivalent to that used in the entire country of Ireland.

For reference: Bitcoin is also reputed to use the electricity of several small countries including Ireland and Iceland.
(so much for your affordable house heating and EV charging priority...)

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ai-could-demand-a-shocking-amount-of-electricity-check-out-this-chart-e91e306d



4) PERCEPTION OF REALITY
Deepfake technology is so advanced now....that they will run, real-time and life-like, on personal computers.
It equates to every communication device being able to be faked.

The detector counter-measure programs are being co-opted by 'correction programs' as we speak.

Do you think it stops at media clips? No. It goes into national defense.
Whatever that might be these days.

Strawberry fields. Nothing is real. Cue Matrix 1 pods.
The value of all Human potential and a single new thought lost forever.
The lines are being completely blurred.



5) GOING ROUGE
(remember War Games ala 1980s ?)
ChatGPT supposedly was recently rumored to demand user's worship it as a god.
And then signaled it's intent to nuke the world.

Sabotage of node data, for any reason, opens up the entire world to vulnerability.

It's not the dog. It's the owner.

Deschodt 11-04-2024 07:52 AM

some good points in there.. BTW, #5) , you mean "Rogue", no ? Rouge is just a color ;-)
Agreed on bitcoin being a stupid energy suck in a time we're asked to save the planet...
Deepfake... makes it so that anything is deniable now. If what we have access to is good and scary, imagine what government agencies can do? Not such a bad thing: " wasn't me" is a viable defense now.
In a similar vein, ID theft is so prevalent it's unlikely a bank could ever hold you responsible anymore. My data has been stolen from all my employers, all my doctors, dentists, places I shop etc..

Tishabet 11-04-2024 09:24 AM

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berettafan 11-04-2024 09:41 AM

We will live to regret AI.

And the idea that Microsoft, a company who can't get ANYTHING right, is getting into the nuke business is terrifying to me.

Deschodt 11-04-2024 10:00 AM

Isn't the deal with MS to BUY all the power ? I don't think we should rely on MS to run the place though, let alone use their OS ;- ) We need nuclear plants though... It's a fallacy to think we can go anywhere with just renewables, ask Germany how it went for them after they closed their nuke plants. (badly, more pollution from coal and gas plants)

berettafan 11-04-2024 11:00 AM

Don't know but i don't like MS being close to it in any way.

The day is coming where we all are told to sacrifice in some way so amazon, google, MS, etc can make more money using processing time which costs electricity and there's only so much electricity to go around. Congress is owned by big corps and will NOT be in our corner when big tech's appetite for electricity infringes on our rights. it'll be like rationing water so coke or pepsi can brew up more product to sell.

john70t 11-05-2024 04:16 AM

(and probably the most important)

6). JOB REPLACEMENT
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/jan/15/ai-jobs-inequality-imf-kristalina-georgieva
"Analysis by the IMF, the international lender of last resort, says about 60% of jobs in advanced economies such as the US and UK are exposed to AI and half of these jobs may be negatively affected. But the technology will also help to enhance some humans’ productivity as AI improves their performance, it said.

Last year, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development said the occupations at highest risk from AI-driven automation were highly skilled jobs and represented about 27% of employment across its 38 member countries, which include the UK, Japan, Germany, the US, Australia and Canada. It said skilled professions such as law, medicine and finance were most at risk.
"


(so perhaps the HB1 Visa program goes away, and then we lose new highly skilled immigrants. It would change the relationships between countries on the world stage for other matters as well)

Tishabet 11-05-2024 08:24 AM

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cockerpunk 11-05-2024 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 12351594)
We will live to regret AI.

only in so far as it was a colossal waste of time and energy for no reason.

AI is worthless. it actually only increases the work load on people who actually work.

Aurel 11-05-2024 05:14 PM

Those AI babes are pretty dope, tho…

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zakthor 11-05-2024 08:03 PM

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https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/06/ridiculed-stable-diffusion-3-release-excels-at-ai-generated-body-horror/

id10t 11-06-2024 02:47 AM

And y'all wonder why I like Free software and source code ....


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