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Tidybuoy 11-20-2024 10:14 AM

What would you do? Paint first, Refinish Floors
 
I'm checking with the Pelican Brain Trust as this is where I get the best information.

I bought a new house that I am refurbishing to make an Airbnb. On my pre-rental list is to refinish the hardwood floors (entire house) and paint (entire interior).

My thought is that I will have to mask the floors for painting regardless if it is before or after refinishing floors. So my current plan is to refinish the hardwood floors first and then paint the interior. Any thoughts on this? I appreciate any comments I get.

The floors throughout the house are in pretty good shape but the finish is wearing off. And, I plan to go a little darker as the walls will eventually be a Spanish white.

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Dantilla 11-20-2024 10:28 AM

Floors after painting.

Dantilla 11-20-2024 10:30 AM

In new construction, floors are installed behind the other trades so they don't get beat up.
Why not do likewise?

2.7RS 11-20-2024 10:32 AM

I went through this once and I learned floors first.

Sanding the floors makes a crazy amounts of dust. If you just painted you are going to need to wash everything and can get streaky and ugly.

I would do the floors, wash everything.
Mask the floors and paint.

I did it like this the second time and it was an improvement.

Tobra 11-20-2024 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 12361422)
Floors after painting.

100% of the time

911 Rod 11-20-2024 10:51 AM

Do the floors need refinishing? Maybe a buff and wax?
People will trash the floors in an Airbnb.

peppy 11-20-2024 11:04 AM

I did painting then floors in my house.

dad911 11-20-2024 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 12361426)
In new construction, floors are installed behind the other trades so they don't get beat up.
Why not do likewise?

Depends who is neater, and scheduling. We typically install hardwood, then trim & other trades, paint base coats, finish the floors, then final paint. Floor finish is typically done with squeegies and mops, and at least buggers up the baseboards, sometimes splashes on the wall.

In your case I'd paint the walls, do the floors, then touch-up the base moldings. That's assuming they use a scratch pad and are not sanding, you are not changing colors, so there is minimum dust.

If full finish with sanding, what 2.7RS said.

wilnj 11-20-2024 12:31 PM

Professional painters aren’t very messy and latex paint cleans much easier than dust and splashes from floor refinishing.

I would do floors first, then paint.

john70t 11-20-2024 01:01 PM

Poly needs a week to fully cure, so I'd say paint first.

(I did my floor first because of old wood and wide gaps which filled with dust.)

Alan A 11-20-2024 03:09 PM

Floors - sanding ruins the baseboards.

Bob Kontak 11-20-2024 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 2.7RS (Post 12361429)
I would do the floors, wash everything.
Mask the floors and paint.

I agree with the order but I would use a blower and a soft hand brush. Like a brush for a work bench.

If fresh-ish paint don't wash anything except gloss/semi-gloss trim.

No experience to back it up, but on the upside, I'm just talking.

Beautiful home.

Dantilla 11-20-2024 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan A (Post 12361575)
Floors - sanding ruins the baseboards.

On a couple fixers I flipped-
Paint walls and baseboards first.
Sanding the floors will scuff just the bottom of the baseboards, so I pre-painted 1" quarter round.
That covered the scuffs, and created a perfect line between painted trim and finished floor.
Just touch up the tiny nail holes.
Goes up fast, looks great.
That's what I would do again.

speeder 11-20-2024 06:30 PM

Whoever said paint first has never done this before. Maybe if you are installing new flooring but if you are sanding hardwood floors, you will absolutely ruin your fresh paint with the dust. It is intense and sticks to everything.

A930Rocket 11-20-2024 06:42 PM

My inclination is floors first, then paint. Doing a full sand job, dust is going to go everywhere, and you don’t want that on freshly painted walls.

A whole house fan would help pull the dust out of the house when sanding.

sc_rufctr 11-20-2024 07:03 PM

I'd refinish the floors first.

(You can buy rolls of floor protection. It's basically tough cardboard)

speeder 11-20-2024 08:03 PM

It does present a challenge covering freshly refinished floors but my preferred strategy is to sand floors first, cover them with construction paper and/or drop cloths, paint and then put the varnish or other coating on the floors last. If you accidentally get a drop or two of paint on the raw wood, it’s not a big deal to clean it up and sand that spot if necessary.

This way, you put the finish on the floors last and no one needs to step on them again before they are fully cured. When they dry, the room is finished. I’ve seen it done the other way and it’s a disaster. I used to be a painter and people would be calling me to repaint the walls again because the floor job ruined them.

Think of it this way….would you paint a valuable car and then immediately sand some other part of the car next to the fresh paint?? When you paint something, you don’t want anything messing with fresh paint.

gregpark 11-20-2024 09:19 PM

^ Sanding and covering then applying sealer and finish later doesn't work.
It would have to be re sanded. Once we start sanding, no one is allowed in the house (no foot prints or debris contamination). Doesn't make much difference to paint first or after, I've done it both ways for 50 years. Regardless, the floors should be protected from paint before OR after the flooring is re finished. Usually the order of events are determined by the schedules of the painter and the floor guy. We plastic off cabinets, light fixtures, etc. for fine dust but I've never had a complaint from a painter or home owner about our minimal dust creating a problem for paint. Our dust reclamation bags work quite well and any residual dust from us is super fine and minimal. (And we don't mess up base boards or door jambs when we sand)

billybek 11-21-2024 04:26 AM

Floors first. When I was doing the first reno on our old bungalow the hardwood floor guy suggested that he start on the floors and get the most of the dirty work out of the way. He did two coats of finish and held off until the painting was done to do the last coat. Worked out well.

cabmandone 11-21-2024 05:19 AM

I'm not sure I'd spend the time to redo the floors in an Airbnb. I'm not sure what the upside to that would be unless the floors just look nasty. A flip? Yeah I do the floors because it adds value.


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