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Tervuren 12-19-2024 02:26 PM

I was just wondering why use the separate additional descriptor opposing if not to disambiguate.

The way I parse language I'm wondering why take the extra time to expressly mention opposed.
If not to convey the pistons moving in opposition vs together, what then?

Any production horizontal engine that I am aware of just saying it is flat or horizontal is enough descriptor to convey the engine layout as having the cylinders opposite in common parlance.

And speaking of inline 6's, maybe some one made a flat inline engine back in the day.
I know Indy cars of the past really leaned the engine over for balance and CG. Not having the drive shaft run down the center of the car had the additional benefit of lower fuel tank and driver placement.
A short period of Indy had FWD dominated machines as it lowered the CG by not running a drive shaft down the chassis at all.

911 Rod 12-20-2024 05:42 AM

I think it will be over 30 million and you get to meet Jerry.

javadog 12-20-2024 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 12377092)
I was just wondering why use the separate additional descriptor opposing if not to disambiguate.

The way I parse language I'm wondering why take the extra time to expressly mention opposed.
If not to convey the pistons moving in opposition vs together, what then?

Any production horizontal engine that I am aware of just saying it is flat or horizontal is enough descriptor to convey the engine layout as having the cylinders opposite in common parlance.

And speaking of inline 6's, maybe some one made a flat inline engine back in the day.
I know Indy cars of the past really leaned the engine over for balance and CG. Not having the drive shaft run down the center of the car had the additional benefit of lower fuel tank and driver placement.
A short period of Indy had FWD dominated machines as it lowered the CG by not running a drive shaft down the chassis at all.

I don't know where the nomenclature came from. There is also the opposed piston engine, a very different concept.

By your definition, an inline 6 would be a flat engine, whether inclined vertically as most are, or canted over to some degree. I don't recall seeing one that was horizontal, although who knows?

Personally, I'm going to continue using the terms as I've understood them all these years and flat engines will only be those with two cylinder banks 180 degrees apart and lying in a horizontal plane.

javadog 12-20-2024 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 12377389)
and you get to meet Jerry.

Oh, see, that makes it all worth it.

If I had the cash and the desire to own a 917 (I don't) I wouldn't buy this one. There would be three on my list. The very original 917K previously owned by Chuck Stoddard, one with a significant race history, or one of the longtails driven by Vic.

This one will likely be more expensive than those and I couldn't give even half a **** if either McQueen or Seinfeld one owned it.

hcoles 12-20-2024 01:24 PM

I wonder the amount the auctioneer will open the bids at.

GH85Carrera 12-20-2024 02:44 PM

When is the auction?

stevej37 12-20-2024 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 12377784)
When is the auction?

Mecum’s Kissimmee auction on January 18

Bob Kontak 12-21-2024 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 12377406)
This one will likely be more expensive than those and I couldn't give even half a **** if either McQueen or Seinfeld one owned it.

That's why I don't think it will go for 30. It's more impressive that Atwood owned it.

Shaun @ Tru6 12-21-2024 03:12 PM

It doesn't matter to this particular buyer, who thinks it's more valuable due to celebrity or driver ownership, only that any number of future buyers will. Collecting 101.

Brian 162 12-21-2024 05:00 PM

If there are 2 or more determined bidders the selling price will rise.

GH85Carrera 12-26-2024 02:55 PM

<iframe width="1920" height="1080" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4WMRvmsOb68" title="Mecum Presents: Steve McQueen's Porsche 917K" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>

There are 3 30 second commercials for Mecum in this, but all car related.

It answers a lot of the questions I had about the car.

Jeff Alton 12-26-2024 07:04 PM

Wonder what the buyer would give me for my 1/1 guitar I had commissioned after this car.... lol

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1735272021.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1735272049.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1735272082.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1735272208.jpg

Cheers

pwd72s 12-27-2024 04:32 PM

Guys! Don't bid on this car! I just found out that it's been in a crash!

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/LaTW7-uOrq4" title="Le Mans 1971 ( Steve McQueen ) Porsche 917 Crash" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Brian 162 12-27-2024 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 12380850)
Guys! Don't bid on this car! I just found out that it's been in a crash!

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/LaTW7-uOrq4" title="Le Mans 1971 ( Steve McQueen ) Porsche 917 Crash" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Not a problem, it’s not on the CarFax report. :D

stevej37 01-18-2025 09:03 AM

Going 'on the block' soon....I think.

tdw28210 01-18-2025 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 12393233)
Going 'on the block' soon....I think.

It's lot S- 237. S-136 just crossed. Probably around 4:30 ET

stevej37 01-18-2025 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tdw28210 (Post 12393248)
It's lot S- 237. S-136 just crossed. Probably around 4:30 ET

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Thanks...I had just got home and turned it to that channel. A lot of other great cars going also.

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stevej37 01-18-2025 12:06 PM

One of Mecums guys was just now asked what it is like while they were revving the engine on the stage.
He said "It's exciting, especially watching that 'spinner' on the engine turning. :D

tdw28210 01-18-2025 12:42 PM

This batch of big boy cars has slowed it down some. Probably more like 5:30 ET now.

tdw28210 01-18-2025 01:15 PM

It's going now.


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