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pwd72s 03-24-2025 10:25 AM

PT Barnum was right
 
I'd never bid on a car sight unseen....especially at $130,000.

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masraum 03-24-2025 10:36 AM

Yeah, not a huge fan of buying a car without seeing it in person.

when I bought my boxster, it was CPO from a Porsche dealership in Dallas. They wanted me to guaranty that I would buy it when I got there. I told them that I wanted it, but that before I committed to anything, I had to see it first.

But buying something like "Eleanor" which is not a stock mustang but is a highly modified mustang that's also nearly 60 years old is definitely not the sort of thing that you do without seeing and driving the vehicle first at the very least.

KFC911 03-24-2025 10:42 AM

PT was right .... for his era.

At least 4-5 per minute these daze... easy.

onewhippedpuppy 03-24-2025 11:12 AM

Ouch, that really sucks. I have bought a car sight unseen once, but it was two years old with under 20k miles and I did a FaceTime video walkthrough with the dealer and then paid for a third party inspection. A restored classic car, not on your life! It’s way too easy to hide issues under paint and bondo, and way too many mechanical variables.

cockerpunk 03-24-2025 11:37 AM

ive bought several cars sight unseen. all were under 2000 dollars, all of them were miatas, and all of them i know how every single nut and bolt in the car works, have spares, and the time to fix em.

herr_oberst 03-24-2025 12:43 PM

When I saw that the Carroll Shelby signature was a decal, I was laughing. By the time I got to the brakelines I was mad.

Man, I couldn't watch the whole thing; I felt so bad for the buyer. Yeah, all the fault is most all his for not clapping his eyeballs on the car, but this is a financial nightmare, and the seller needs to be held responsible. I wonder if the loose Tremec also contributed to the broken driveshaft.

onewhippedpuppy 03-24-2025 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 12434445)
ive bought several cars sight unseen. all were under 2000 dollars, all of them were miatas, and all of them i know how every single nut and bolt in the car works, have spares, and the time to fix em.

It’s a little lower risk when you can part it out for the purchase price.

A930Rocket 03-24-2025 06:14 PM

That was painful to watch!

sc_rufctr 03-24-2025 06:55 PM

I'm guessing that car was not built in a professional shop.

wdfifteen 03-25-2025 12:31 AM

^^
Depends on what their profession is. ;)

Paul T 03-25-2025 05:56 AM

Oooff, that is painful! I have bought sight unseen a few times and have been very happy, but only after a TON of pics, videos and conversations.

tdw28210 03-25-2025 06:18 AM

I've bought a couple Cayennes via facetime video sessions. One was fine the other had a "follow up negotiation" on the price. $3k came back my way on that second one. ;)

cockerpunk 03-25-2025 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 12434526)
It’s a little lower risk when you can part it out for the purchase price.

for sure.

also i like buying broken miatas, they make great profit when you can turn them around and sell them fixed.

masraum 03-25-2025 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 12434491)
When I saw that the Carroll Shelby signature was a decal, I was laughing. By the time I got to the brakelines I was mad.

Man, I couldn't watch the whole thing; I felt so bad for the buyer. Yeah, all the fault is most all his for not clapping his eyeballs on the car, but this is a financial nightmare, and the seller needs to be held responsible. I wonder if the loose Tremec also contributed to the broken driveshaft.

And there are plenty of folks that even seeing and driving the car may not have noticed the issues. Hell, the buyer saw it and drove it anyway, and he drove it enough to break the pinion gear in the rear. I assume someone did a crappy build, beat the hell out of it and then sold it. Or hell, maybe it had been flipped a time or two since it was built before it got to the guy. Although I'm sure the seller (whether the builder or not) knew that it was crap.

Lots of folks that wouldn't know good from bad other than "Oooo, shiny. Ah, loud!!!"

masraum 03-25-2025 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 12434702)
I'm guessing that car was not built in a professional shop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12434754)
^^
Depends on what their profession is. ;)

Yeah, exactly. They were "pro" alright. They got paid to scam someone into paying a ton for a piece of junk.

zakthor 03-26-2025 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 12434411)
PT was right .... for his era.

At least 4-5 per minute these daze... easy.

I thought the quote was that noone ever went broke...

Aww here it is:

No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people.

But it wasn't pt barnum. drats.

rcooled 03-26-2025 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 12434411)
PT was right...

"There's a sucker born every minute." - P.T. Barnum

sc_rufctr 04-28-2025 01:39 AM

SmileWavy

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