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Shaun @ Tru6 05-21-2025 11:08 AM

Any chemists here?
 
I've been doing a lot of electroless nickel work and now the partner company would like it to have a slight gold tone to it. None of my platers will even entertain the question but I'm wondering if another metal or substance could be added to the nickel bath that would colorize, even just slightly, the resulting plating.

I've also looked in PVD to replace nickel but that has it's own limitations.

Arizona_928 05-21-2025 12:07 PM

Cue in the R&D for a product that financially probably won’t pay off.


As a chemiker (that has not reviewed literature on this topic), i would attack this problem with doping (Co, Sn, Cu, etc). Lots of variables and would inspect the work with XRF and/or SEM w/EDS … remember, micro before scale up.

Tobra 05-21-2025 12:31 PM

I thought you plated the gold over the nickel

Arizona_928 05-21-2025 12:44 PM

I don’t think they want to pay for the use of actual gold…?


One of my favorite rxn’s is to electroless deposition pennys with zinc and heat them up.

Shaun @ Tru6 05-21-2025 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 12468847)
I don’t think they want to pay for the use of actual gold…?


One of my favorite rxn’s is to electroless deposition pennys with zinc and heat them up.

Just need a hint of gold tinted nickel. So not gold, just the idea of gold.

Magyar Kiwi 05-21-2025 09:49 PM

Hi
A lot of the nickel plating that I have seen had a straw / pale yellow color.

For nickel plating colors including, white, gray gold and black, see more here:
https://www.electroplatingmachines.com/news/common-colors-of-nickel-plating.html

Cheers

Racerbvd 05-21-2025 10:15 PM

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id10t 05-22-2025 04:14 AM

Sent thread to a couple of the chem instructors at work....

flatbutt 05-22-2025 05:04 AM

Fascinating

https://www.finishing.com/288/01.shtml


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