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Sometimes I wonder how I'm still alive

My parking lot is being repaved so I need to move as many cars as I can into my shop. Ended up having to make a rollable rack for my 73 body to go over a 69. The fun part was I made the top of the rack too high vs ceiling height less winch height. So with the wire hook to the winch, I had tilt the tub to get one side on the rack and then jack up the other side to get the dolly wheels up and over, all under the car. So glad it's done. Need to make another.

957 Cayennes make great pick-up trucks, 16’ 2x10s. There is nothing this truck can't do.








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Went up and down probably 10 times to get everything sorted




Jacking up the right front corner to clear the beams




In place. Thrilled.

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i mean if its not raining, i carry 10-12 foot boards all day in my miata.
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I have found the secret to not killing yourself doing stupid ( ie: poorly thought out ) stuff is to take a break between the set up and the execution. On the other hand, I have said many times I would rather be lucky than good, because some of the crap I have pulled off: there is no way I could have been that good.
Case in point: when I was building the barn, I had the stud walls up and had braced them. The next day was we got a storm that gave high winds with heavy wet snow. The snow sticking to the 2x6s gave the wind more to push against and I saw one of the braces give way. I got geared up and went out to try to fix the problem. Before I got there, another brace failed. I was desperately trying to get enough bracing on the remaining walls when the wind and snow won and the walls came down....on me. You know how, in the cartoons when the wall collapses the roadrunner is standing in the window opening ? When the last wall came down, I was standing in the space between two studs. That was enough for me. I picked my tools up out of the debris and went back to the house. I had used up my luck for the day.

Oh yeah. Even I would put some bracing on that rack.
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Shaun that's a nice wooden 4 post lift 👌 😀
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Been thinkin that since I was in my teens.

BTW, LOVE the windshield protector towels in front of the lumber. Solid..
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Good skills!

It's interesting how little a 911 weighs with the engine+gearbox removed and a few other bits gone.
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Because I'm anal, I would have had triangulation in at least two places. I hate it when my homebuilt coupe carcass rack racks and smashes the targa carcass!!
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I'd at least add bolts to the places marked in red.



And the similar locations on the upper cross pieces.
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What is the wood that's leaning in front of the Ducati?
Is that yours?
Can you knock the 2x4's off it so you can use the sheet if it's plywood, to make some gussets?
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Herr and Scott Dougless is correct Shuan, cross bracing on three sides and install removable ones up front with through bolts where the big opening is. It isn't safe the way it is.
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Because I'm anal, I would have had triangulation in at least two places. I hate it when my homebuilt coupe carcass rack racks and smashes the targa carcass!!

Oh absolutely, I built it around several parameters though the most important being time to build and what is going on it. I designed it mostly for winter storage for my Scirocco which is just under 2000 lb, Fiat spider will go underneath. But the Scirocco I can park at the shopping center across the street during paving which meant the 69 could come inside and the 73 at a svelt 800-900 lb could go up on top which is a lot like putting a fork on top of a shoe box.

So this November I'll be finishing and reinforcing the dolly for the Scirocco.

Part of my death trap motif testing, with the tub still connected to the winch but cable loose, I shook the hell out of the dolly and tried to parallelogram it. It is far stronger than it looks. It's not doing anything in static mode. But I am double bolting the bottom now that it's "done" and all cars are in the shop.
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Shaun that's a nice wooden 4 post lift 👌 😀
My first design iteration had 4 farm jacks at each corner but quickly gave that up with the 24" tall girder in the ceiling that I strapped my portable trailer winch to. I'd love to know the weight capacity of that thing. 20K lb?

I will get a dedicated hoist that I will bolt directly to it some day.
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When the wood dries out, the bolts will become loose and it will rack.
Just my experience from building a gazebo for our patio.
A little time taken now to make it safer will save you a lot of time later on.
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I would check with your workmen insurance carrier for coverage in case of a disaster
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I would check with your workmen insurance carrier for coverage in case of a disaster
Always a good idea! Lol...

Innocent call..."I'm just wondering if say, a car fell off of a wooden rack I built and landed on me, would I be covered? Or would people on the internet have to create a go fund me for me? Asking for a friend, thanks."
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When the wood dries out, the bolts will become loose and it will rack.
Just my experience from building a gazebo for our patio.
A little time taken now to make it safer will save you a lot of time later on.
Scott, I'm pretty sure wood shrinks when it dries so if anything they'll be tighter. As it was, it took many swings with a 2.5 lb mini sledge to drive the bolts through or 100+ psi on my 3/8 gun to screw them through. I used wood for both cost and disassembly (welding would have been quicker to build but the steel tube insanely expensive I imagine) but this thing is not coming apart easily.

I used a 2 stage drilling technique starting with 1/4 and then to 1/2 for clean, not-hogged-out holes. Thank god for the lathe because I couldn't find the big chuck to my monster hammer drill. Moving sucks. Did this all with an older DeWalt corded drill and baby compound miter Ryobi saw with an aluminum blade. Drill was particularly impressive.

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Believe it or not Shaun, they will loosen.
As wood shrinks the holes will get bigger, it pulls away from the bolts, it doesn't compress around them.
Trust me on this, I have to tighten the bolts up on our gazebo every year because of it happening.
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Believe it or not Shaun, they will loosen.
As wood shrinks the holes will get bigger, it pulls away from the bolts, it doesn't compress around them.
Trust me on this, I have to tighten the bolts up on our gazebo every year because of it happening.
Good to know, thanks Scott, I will keep an eye on them. It will only be important for the Scirocco this winter. It will be all braced up then at least.
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As I recall a stripped 911 tub is around 700lbs, Shaun's dolly should be fine. I used to lift 911 & 944 tubs off my trailer with 4x4's across the trailer.

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Same here, my risks also involved cars, but when I was a teenager.
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Thanks! I did research wood and vertically oriented 2x4s over a 6' span can hold 1000 to 1500 lb depending spruce vs douglas fir. There are 4 2x4x48 crossbeams held in with Strong Tie joist hangers on the 2x10s. The tub is really a feather on this thing. I wouldn't put the 2000 lb Scirocco on it (the pair of top 2x10s on each side are spaced to the track width), but it won't need much to safely hold the car later this year.

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