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vash 06-11-2025 12:46 PM

just held a job interview through online meeting. AI?
 
her answers were perfect. better than I could have done.

big words, no past work experience. she just has to type quickly to use A!?

cockerpunk 06-11-2025 12:51 PM

im real confused about this concept that you could use AI to "cheat" at a job interview.

like ... if you can just google and use AI to solve the problems that you are hiring this person for ... what are you hiring them for exactly?

and if you cant ... then why are you asking them questions that AI can answer correctly?



interviews are mostly IMO about personality, mentality, people skills, etc ... if you doubt the person has the technical knowledge, or can't learn them on the job ... you probably shouldnt be interviewing them.

this, like most AI applications, seems like a pretty far fetched one. or you are using interviews wrong.

Arizona_928 06-11-2025 12:55 PM

Not even that. There’s ai models that actively listen to the interview and provide instant full context answers

Dixie 06-11-2025 01:08 PM

Hire her. She's innovative and knows how to get things done quickly, efficiently, and is tech savvy. New blood, and new thinking are just what your company needs.

Would you be worried she used a calculator if it was 1975?

vash 06-11-2025 01:15 PM

oh..I am full of regret posting this already. I never said I felt she cheated, or noted how or if I will hire her..

just asking for the mechanism to the process. thanks Arizona. I didnt know that.

unclebilly 06-11-2025 02:17 PM

AI can respond to voice ya know…

dad911 06-11-2025 02:24 PM

Video meeting? Show the candidate a pic of a problem, and ask them how to solve, showing their work in real time......

Dixie 06-11-2025 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 12479646)
Video meeting? Show the candidate a pic of a problem, and ask them how to solve, showing their work in real time......

Exactly the kind of demeaning interview where I used to get up and leave. ;)

rcooled 06-11-2025 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dixie (Post 12479669)
Exactly the kind of demeaning interview where I used to get up and leave.

What's so demeaning about demonstrating skills that are required to do the job?

Arizona_928 06-11-2025 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dixie (Post 12479600)
Hire her. She's innovative and knows how to get things done quickly, efficiently, and is tech savvy. New blood, and new thinking are just what your company needs.

Would you be worried she used a calculator if it was 1975?

No. I’ve seen this play out before. They fall flat on their face after a few months (if that).


Being savvy only goes so far on a competency scale

astrochex 06-11-2025 04:11 PM

Is a follow up interview in-person a possibility?

vash 06-11-2025 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 12479703)
Is a follow up interview in-person a possibility?

candidate is on the East Coast. working on a solution.

I liked the person.

RANDY P 06-12-2025 07:00 AM

There is nothing clever or useful about someone who needs a crutch during an interview. Hire the AI system she used, tell her to pound sand.

rjp

stealthn 06-12-2025 07:36 AM

If you think they are AI ask them to do a full turn around, AI can't do that.

RANDY P 06-12-2025 07:39 AM

^^^
Good one.

A job interview is less a problem solving session and more of a personality and competency test. If a candidate (even if she's 'female') cannot be bothered to demonstrate both, they WILL fail at their required tasks.

rjp

Arizona_928 06-12-2025 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 12479962)
If you think they are AI ask them to do a full turn around, AI can't do that.

I don’t think they’re cheating that hard. There’s ai models directly used for interview questions that will give a chatgpt 4.5 level response in real time. It’s innovate and a tool but it won’t work at the end of the day for someone’s competency.

That said, anyone here use that camo-gpt…?! Holy fak is that one fun.

masraum 06-12-2025 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 12479610)
oh..I am full of regret posting this already. I never said I felt she cheated, or noted how or if I will hire her..

just asking for the mechanism to the process. thanks Arizona. I didnt know that.

LOL! Sorry, dude. It happens.

At least you did get the answer that you were looking for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dixie (Post 12479600)
Hire her. She's innovative and knows how to get things done quickly, efficiently, and is tech savvy. New blood, and new thinking are just what your company needs.

Would you be worried she used a calculator if it was 1975?

Meh, there's no guaranty that she actually knows anything about the subject matter. Maybe she's cheated her way through life (some folks are very good at that). You need to understand what's going on, even if you can use AI in real life so you understand when AI is wrong.


Quote:

Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 12479646)
Video meeting? Show the candidate a pic of a problem, and ask them how to solve, showing their work in real time......

Yep, good option if an image of a problem is something that applies to the job.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dixie (Post 12479669)
Exactly the kind of demeaning interview where I used to get up and leave. ;)

demeaning? Why is being asked to demonstrate skills demeaning? Maybe when you were in the trenches, there weren't any dumbaßes around, but there are plenty these days. I've seen more than a few slip through the cracks one way or another.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 12479699)
No. I’ve seen this play out before. They fall flat on their face after a few months (if that).


Being savvy only goes so far on a competency scale

right, it often doesn't take months for the folks around them to know, but it usually takes months before management is certain, and then it's harder to kick them to the curb.

dad911 06-12-2025 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dixie (Post 12479669)
Exactly the kind of demeaning interview where I used to get up and leave. ;)

Depends on 'the job' applied for.

I used to just tell applicants to show up, they got the job. (construction labor and mechanics) 80% no-shows, and 50% of those quit within a week. They just wanted a name to put on their unemployment showing they tried to find work.

Dixie, I'd have hired you without an interview, after seeing you tackle those flooring & siding jobs. Most of my employees were afraid to try anything new. SmileWavy

RANDY P 06-12-2025 07:54 AM

Try working with fresh H1B. There you will see resume and skills fraud.

rjp

masraum 06-12-2025 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 12479975)
Try working with fresh H1B. There you will see resume and skills fraud.

rjp

Yep. I've seen lots of stuff out of India. There are folks in India that really know what they are doing, but there are also a lot of folks that aren't afraid to lie. I know a guy that actually had someone present him with his own resume (few small edits here and there, but otherwise same employment history experience).

craigster59 06-12-2025 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 12479962)
If you think they are AI ask them to do a full turn around, AI can't do that.

You mean like, "Show me your caboose"?

Shaun @ Tru6 06-12-2025 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 12479724)
candidate is on the East Coast. working on a solution.

I liked the person.

Would you like the person as much without them relying on AI?

Dixie 06-12-2025 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 12479971)
Dixie, I'd have hired you without an interview, after seeing you tackle those flooring & siding jobs.

Thank you, I'm frugal. I just can't stand the idea of paying someone $100+/hr without trying to do it first.

masraum 06-12-2025 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dixie (Post 12480053)
Thank you, I'm frugal. I just can't stand the idea of paying someone $100+/hr without trying to do it first.

And then having them do a crappy job.

gacook 06-12-2025 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12479994)
Yep. I've seen lots of stuff out of India. There are folks in India that really know what they are doing, but there are also a lot of folks that aren't afraid to lie. I know a guy that actually had someone present him with his own resume (few small edits here and there, but otherwise same employment history experience).

Got a guy that used to work for me, and works for me again. Few years back, I gave him my resume as an example. He used it to get hired in his current job. I am now the supervisor there. His resume is nearly verbatim mine...he changed virtually nothing other than his name. :rolleyes:

stealthn 06-12-2025 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 12479995)
You mean like, "Show me your caboose"?

Ah no, just turn around 360

Por_sha911 06-12-2025 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcooled (Post 12479695)
What's so demeaning about demonstrating skills that are required to do the job?

Some groups automatically assume that any question of the validity of their ability is because they are (x gender) or (x race) or (x nationality). They can't accept that all applicants are screened and you must be discriminating them.
Example: I was pulled over for wreckless driving by speeding and blowing through a red light. I also smelled like alcohol and blew up the breathalyzer BUT the only reason the police officer pulled me over was because I am (x). {Now pull out the race card} :rolleyes:

disclosure: this is not a comment or judgement on any particular person.

stealthn 06-12-2025 01:00 PM

My buddy was looking for a technical team lead position, for the in-person interviews he setup a lab and requested everyone complete certain tasks in the lab to prove their creds. 90% of the people could not do the lab...

I thought it was brilliant

Dixie 06-13-2025 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 12480181)
Some groups automatically assume that any question of the validity of their ability...

Lol, that's a big reach from what I was getting at, but whatever...

My point was, interviewers forget that the candidate is also interviewing who theyll be working with. I've had several interviews where I eventually tired of the 'gotcha' questions and decided there was no way I would take the job, and politely told them so. I had an extensive career in IT management. I mean, asking me the four divisions of a COBOL program isn't really germaine to the position, but if you must know they're find, cut, copy, and paste. ;)

zakthor 06-15-2025 01:25 PM

I've a friend that is swamped with fake resumes, mostly from india.

She says it takes her approximately a minute to end the zoom interviews. Just ask about their actual experiences in the domain. They should have a lot of stories with so many years of experience.

She's hiring for very technical positions so its easy to tell right away. The candidates might have ai and prompts but they're defenseless against her questions. And MAN does she hold a grudge.


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