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wdfifteen 06-28-2025 06:19 AM

What do you do for cognitive health?
 
I’m terrified of dementia. I watched my father go through it and it is horrible. So I work at keeping my brain cells exercised.
I used to do logic puzzles, but I’m kind of bored with them. I may go back.
Right now I do the daily Wordle, a cryptogram, and a block-sorting game on my phone. Plus I stand balanced on one foot for two minutes at the end of morning stretches. I’m trying to expand my knot-tying repertoire, but I’m finding remembering the knots more challenging than I expected.
I know a lot of the folks here are “of a certain age.” What do you do to maintain cognitive health?

Rot 911 06-28-2025 06:23 AM

I played chess once a week with a friend of mine. In between I play chess against the computer on my iPad. I also read, a lot.

JackDidley 06-28-2025 06:33 AM

I play chess on line. (I suck at it.) Also try new OS software on my laptops but ubuntu seems to be my go to.

Dantilla 06-28-2025 06:53 AM

The human brain needs blood. Lotsa blood.

Get your heart rate up. Every day.

Shaun @ Tru6 06-28-2025 07:08 AM

I practice curiosity like it's an Olympic event and it's 6 months before the next games.

I'm watching a video on little known details about Paul Revere's ride right now.

jhynesrockmtn 06-28-2025 07:45 AM

My Mom suffered for years with dementia. Her Doc thought it was vascular. She had a suspect ticker, smoked from her teens to her 40s until an emphysema diagnosis and never exercised. She lived alone and had hearing loss. She ticked every box. Her Doc said the keys to staving off or slowing brain deterioration was social activity, physical activity and brain work. Puzzles, reading, hobbies.

I do some daily puzzles, have family and friends for social activities, still work and try and keep busy with projects. Just completed a refresh, including an EFI install, on my FJ40.

Physical exercise is key as well. Keep the heart and brain healthy with regular cardio and muscle toning exercise. I row, bike and walk, along with pushups, curls and squats regularly.

herr_oberst 06-28-2025 08:02 AM

This is an excellent topic, and I'm interested in all the responses, because it's something I'm concerned with too.

I Wordle, read, bicycle, tinker with mechanical things, worry, fret, jump to conclusions, engage in self doubt....

gregpark 06-28-2025 08:09 AM

Stop eating free sugars, eat more walnuts and stay active physically and mentally. That's alI I got

jyl 06-28-2025 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12488996)
I’m terrified of dementia. I watched my father go through it and it is horrible. So I work at keeping my brain cells exercised.
I used to do logic puzzles, but I’m kind of bored with them. I may go back.
Right now I do the daily Wordle, a cryptogram, and a block-sorting game on my phone. Plus I stand balanced on one foot for two minutes at the end of morning stretches. I’m trying to expand my knot-tying repertoire, but I’m finding remembering the knots more challenging than I expected.
I know a lot of the folks here are “of a certain age.” What do you do to maintain cognitive health?

You might be interested in this. The mechanism is not understood yet but the clinical effect appears potentially significant.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2025-06-25-how-do-vaccines-reduce-risk-dementia

The whole area of viruses and neurological diseases is early and interesting. I have a friend dying of ALS, so I noticed a recent article suggesting that ALS may be caused or exacerbated by latent viruses that are somehow triggered. Hopefully there is research underway on this connection including antiviral therapies. Probably not in the US though.

My work is pretty cognitive so my cognitive health regimen is to never stop working.

Dixie 06-28-2025 08:21 AM

I drink. The alcohol kills off the slow, wounded brain cells leaving room for new, healthy ones. Now, where was I going with this post? :D

vash 06-28-2025 08:29 AM

I sleep. I put a high priority on getting enough sleep. I now wear earplugs 100% of the time. my dog will alert me of troubles, (I hope)..but in silence, sleep is almost a super power. last night, I slept over 10 hours, since I woke up at 2:00 to fish the morning of.

less obvious. I really limit my food touching aluminum. if I use foil, I layer on some micro plastics in the form of parchment paper. hahah..

cleaner diet, I have quit alcohol, I jog daily. I get my body moving daily, suffer some. .... I want to die under my own juice.

oldE 06-28-2025 08:35 AM

Active? Check. I do the maintenance around here.
Eat healthy? Check. The wife has been a vegetarian for 45 years and I tend to eat with her. Also she puts in a garden every year. No pesticides. I manage to keep my weight in the mid 170s.
Keep the brain exercised? Check. I try to learn a song every couple of weeks. I tallied up the ones I would be prepared to sing in public (without words or music in front of me) the total is just over 300.
Plus I suspect genetics is on my side. Both parents lived into their 90s with no loss of mental faculty.

vash 06-28-2025 08:40 AM

genetics feels like a huge disadvantage or advantage. me - I think I am good to go.

wife? mmm...I might need to sharpie my name to her forearm. it runs in her family. runs deep

herr_oberst 06-28-2025 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldE (Post 12489079)
I tallied up the ones I would be prepared to sing in public (without words or music in front of me) the total is just over 300.

Wow.

If this is a metric then I suspect I'm dementia-bound, because even as much as I like music - and I have dozens of favorites - I might be able to recite all the lyrics to one.

(Sidebar. And it for sure ain't Gentle On My Mind. How anyone can sing that from memory boggles me.)

Otter74 06-28-2025 09:23 AM

I think this is the best answer here. My mom checks all those boxes - she’s almost 80 and doing great. Her mom spent years at the end of her life with dementia, so my mom has an understandable fear. But I think she’s in a much better position than my grandmother was.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jhynesrockmtn (Post 12489041)
My Mom suffered for years with dementia. Her Doc thought it was vascular. She had a suspect ticker, smoked from her teens to her 40s until an emphysema diagnosis and never exercised. She lived alone and had hearing loss. She ticked every box. Her Doc said the keys to staving off or slowing brain deterioration was social activity, physical activity and brain work. Puzzles, reading, hobbies.

I do some daily puzzles, have family and friends for social activities, still work and try and keep busy with projects. Just completed a refresh, including an EFI install, on my FJ40.

Physical exercise is key as well. Keep the heart and brain healthy with regular cardio and muscle toning exercise. I row, bike and walk, along with pushups, curls and squats regularly.


Seahawk 06-28-2025 09:25 AM

To abuse the Eagles: "We are all just prisoners here of our own genetics..."

Sort of.

There is no history of cognitive issues on either side of my family...everybody loses a few miles an hour off the first pitch, but nothing worrisome.

Still, I want to keep the slate clean so I have done some homework that makes sense for me.

I use a regime of vitamins and supplements as recommended by my PCP and others:

- Creatine Supplement. It would be embarrassing to call what I do a "workout" but 5 grams help...I drink it as I use the elliptical and watch Family Feud. I know, what a baller, huh?

- Colostrum. Same amount. After some homework, I mix them in the same "work out" water bottle. Like I said, baller:cool:

- My PCP and others have given me a list of other supplements tailored to me...nothing wacky, just the basics as well as the typical old guy stuff.

- Essential Oils. Do some homework and do not "sleep" on their impact. I have a humidifier I use nightly with specific essential oils I have found increase my ability to relax and sleep as well as prevent congestion. I have said many times, if the palcebo effect is in play, back the truck up.

- Walk About's. If I am working from home, I go for a local drive every day...I could stay in my bubble but I have found that counter-productive...get out.

- Games. Pick any, on line, on paper, they help.

- Write. You have that talent, use it as much as you can.

That is a good start.

cabmandone 06-28-2025 10:07 AM

I can't remember. :D

My dad used to play Sudoku like it was his job.

Noah930 06-28-2025 11:04 AM

There are no guarantees.

Not preaching to avoid exercising your brain, but my mother passed away with Alzheimer's. She had a doctorate degree. She did sodoku puzzles. She loved murder mysteries, both on TV and reading. But then she got older. And once Covid hit (with its social isolation?) she deteriorated noticeably.

One thing I've learned in medicine: sometimes you can do everything right, and still have a bad outcome. Doesn't mean you don't try your hardest, but sometimes it's just not meant to be.

Noah930 06-28-2025 11:08 AM

There's a 3-part documentary (Netflix?) called "The Blue Zones." A guy found areas where there were high concentrations of old people (octogenarians+) and tried to figure out their secrets to longevity. One thing that struck me was a comment he made that there were no nursing homes in these cultures. Not because they weren't sophisticated enough to have them, but rather that there didn't seem to be a need for them. There weren't a lot of old people with dementia, for example.

brainz01 06-28-2025 12:18 PM

This has been a huge area of interest for me since losing my otherwise healthy father to Alzheimers in 2016. He was only 70 years old, but his mental health had declined rapidly over the prior 10 years. His Alzheimers was essentially unexplained and doctors offered no solutions or recommendations at the time. It's a nasty, lonely, expensive disease that opens one's eyes to the reality that relationships are at the brain level, hence caring for a demtia patient can feel like tending to the living dead. It sucks.

It was published after my father died, but Dale Bredesen's "The end of Alzheimers" provides an insightful theory about the many causes of dementia. The book uses a metaphor of "holes in a roof" to describe how dementia is generally a cumulative failure rather than a single point failure, which is partly why pharmaceutical interventions which target a single mode of damage are typically ineffective treatments. A single hole in your roof will cause your house to deteriorate over time, but multiple holes will quickly destroy it. The book addresses the likely "holes" in our brain health. Bredesen breaks the holes into groupings including metabolic issues (insulin resistance), nutrient deficiencies, and toxic exposures.

As for what's the best prevention for dementia, I'll summarize my personal findings:

1) Reduce your sugar and carbohydrate intake. Too much sugar creates insulin resistance, the inability for the body to efficiently process sugar over time. This reduction in metabolic activity essentially starves your brain and contributes to the build up of toxic waste products and misfolded proteins that are hallmarks of dementia. A1C is a good (cheap) measure of your sugar levels. Try to be 5.0 or less. 5.5+ is pre diabetic and not good. There's a reason some call dementia diabetes of the brain. High sugar levels are bad in general and to be avoided.

2) Get regular exercise. Both muscle mass and cardio vascular health are associated with improved insulin resistance and greater tolerance of sugar. Exercise also benefits sleep quality. HIIT exercises are also great because of how they provide temporary excess stress that seems to benefit health by challenging the body's dynamic response.

3) Get quality sleep, typically 7+ hours a night. As noted, exercise really helps with sleep. But so does eating earlier in the evening, having a set bed time, sound and light-free environments, and no alcohol before bed.

4) Eat healthy, real food. This gets contentious fsst, but IMO a whole foods, ketogenic or carnivore diet is likely best for brain and overall health. Carnivores are the smartest of the mammals, and while humans can eat a variety of foods and stay alive, it's very clear that we are anatomically preferentially carnivorous given our short guts, highly acidic stomachs, and forward facing eyes.

Grass fed red meat, eggs, and butter are king. Pork and chicken are OK. Green leafy veggies and/or broccoi/cauliflower tend to be pretty healthy. Some colorful berries have benefits in moderation, but in general, most fruits aren't especially good for regular consumption. Starchy veggies can have a place in moderation depending on your caloric needs, but for most adults are unnecessary. Grains (wheat, corn, rice) are usually not great for you for multiple reasons, and for some (including me) are disastrous for body inflammation and allergies. Avoid food that come in a box or a plastic bag and is shelf stable - these are typically grain-based processed foods. Also avoid seed oils. Olive and avacado oils are OK. Tallow, lard, coconut oil, and butter are preferred cooking fats.

5) Key supplements:
- Vitamin D (with K2). Few people get enough sun these days. D is fundamental to hundreds of body processes inclusing metabolism and immune response. The K2 helps with calcium regulation and plaque formation and helps prevent haleart attacks. D also helps with testosterone and other hormone balance.

- Magnesium (glycinate) . Our soils are generally depleted and veggies no longer have this in the amounts we need. This will synergize with Vit D and also help with blood pressure and heart arthymias which increase with age.

- Zinc (with copper). Same idea as Magnesium. Also boosts testosterone and hormone balance.

- Boron. For testosterone and bone health.

6) : Avoid these things

- Heavy metals and molds. Toxic.

- Smoking. Just don't.

- Chronic stress. And if you have unavoidable stress, find a healthy outlet for de-stress like exercise, yoga/meditation, friends, therapists, religion, etc.

- Alcohol. Not great for sleep. Not good for liver and metabolic health. Consume sparingly and preferably not every day.

- Seed oils. These are not natural parts of the human diet and should be avoided as they are inflammatory.

- Many Pharmaceuticals. This is a long and complex topic but many drugs have side effects and should be used as a last resort if diet and lifestyle can't manage the underlying issue. I'll throw rocks at statins in particular - - I think they are poison and contributed to my father's rapid decline which started within a year or two of him being prescribed such. Cholesterol has been unfairly demonized over the past 50 years on the back of very poor science and researcher bias. Cholesterol is required by the body for many important processes, and especially brain function - - statistically speaking, taking a statin will not extend your life, but it will come with side effects. Choose carefully. Flame suit on...

Anyway, after thousands of hours of research and years of [ongoing] personal testing and experiments, I am an advocate of the above. I've never felt better or more mentally sharp. Physically stronger and leaner. And my chronic health issues including allergies and anxiety went away. No meds.

It's not easy making lifestyle changes, or choices that some experts will tell you are unhealthy or unethical (eg eating red meat and saturated fat). But there is abundant research and anecdotal support for the benefits of the above measures. And the results are tangible. There are too many of us with similar success stories.

Good luck with your journey and be well.



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Seahawk 06-28-2025 12:41 PM

^^^ Awesome!!!

D and K2 are on my daily list and I take only one prescription drug.

Also, I filter all water, whole house and a Brita Jug.

Thanks again.

Seahawk 06-28-2025 12:41 PM

Bump!

Quote:

Originally Posted by brainz01 (Post 12489196)
This has been a huge area of interest for me since losing my otherwise healthy father to Alzheimers in 2016. He was only 70 years old, but his mental health had declined rapidly over the prior 10 years. His Alzheimers was essentially unexplained and doctors offered no solutions or recommendations at the time. It's a nasty, lonely, expensive disease that opens one's eyes to the reality that relationships are at the brain level, hence caring for a demtia patient can feel like tending to the living dead. It sucks.

It was published after my father died, but Dale Bredesen's "The end of Alzheimers" provides an insightful theory about the many causes of dementia. The book uses a metaphor of "holes in a roof" to describe how dementia is generally a cumulative failure rather than a single point failure, which is partly why pharmaceutical interventions which target a single mode of damage are typically ineffective treatments. A single hole in your roof will cause your house to deteriorate over time, but multiple holes will quickly destroy it. The book addresses the likely "holes" in our brain health. Bredesen breaks the holes into groupings including metabolic issues (insulin resistance), nutrient deficiencies, and toxic exposures.

As for what's the best prevention for dementia, I'll summarize my personal findings:

1) Reduce your sugar and carbohydrate intake. Too much sugar creates insulin resistance, the inability for the body to efficiently process sugar over time. This reduction in metabolic activity essentially starves your brain and contributes to the build up of toxic waste products and misfolded proteins that are hallmarks of dementia. A1C is a good (cheap) measure of your sugar levels. Try to be 5.0 or less. 5.5+ is pre diabetic and not good. There's a reason some call dementia diabetes of the brain. High sugar levels are bad in general and to be avoided.

2) Get regular exercise. Both muscle mass and cardio vascular health are associated with improved insulin resistance and greater tolerance of sugar. Exercise also benefits sleep quality. HIIT exercises are also great because of how they provide temporary excess stress that seems to benefit health by challenging the body's dynamic response.

3) Get quality sleep, typically 7+ hours a night. As noted, exercise really helps with sleep. But so does eating earlier in the evening, having a set bed time, sound and light-free environments, and no alcohol before bed.

4) Eat healthy, real food. This gets contentious fsst, but IMO a whole foods, ketogenic or carnivore diet is likely best for brain and overall health. Carnivores are the smartest of the mammals, and while humans can eat a variety of foods and stay alive, it's very clear that we are anatomically preferentially carnivorous given our short guts, highly acidic stomachs, and forward facing eyes.

Grass fed red meat, eggs, and butter are king. Pork and chicken are OK. Green leafy veggies and/or broccoi/cauliflower tend to be pretty healthy. Some colorful berries have benefits in moderation, but in general, most fruits aren't especially good for regular consumption. Starchy veggies can have a place in moderation depending on your caloric needs, but for most adults are unnecessary. Grains (wheat, corn, rice) are usually not great for you for multiple reasons, and for some (including me) are disastrous for body inflammation and allergies. Avoid food that come in a box or a plastic bag and is shelf stable - these are typically grain-based processed foods. Also avoid seed oils. Olive and avacado oils are OK. Tallow, lard, coconut oil, and butter are preferred cooking fats.

5) Key supplements:
- Vitamin D (with K2). Few people get enough sun these days. D is fundamental to hundreds of body processes inclusing metabolism and immune response. The K2 helps with calcium regulation and plaque formation and helps prevent haleart attacks. D also helps with testosterone and other hormone balance.

- Magnesium (glycinate) . Our soils are generally depleted and veggies no longer have this in the amounts we need. This will synergize with Vit D and also help with blood pressure and heart arthymias which increase with age.

- Zinc (with copper). Same idea as Magnesium. Also boosts testosterone and hormone balance.

- Boron. For testosterone and bone health.

6) : Avoid these things

- Heavy metals and molds. Toxic.

- Smoking. Just don't.

- Chronic stress. And if you have unavoidable stress, find a healthy outlet for de-stress like exercise, yoga/meditation, friends, therapists, religion, etc.

- Alcohol. Not great for sleep. Not good for liver and metabolic health. Consume sparingly and preferably not every day.

- Seed oils. These are not natural parts of the human diet and should be avoided as they are inflammatory.

- Many Pharmaceuticals. This is a long and complex topic but many drugs have side effects and should be used as a last resort if diet and lifestyle can't manage the underlying issue. I'll throw rocks at statins in particular - - I think they are poison and contributed to my father's rapid decline which started within a year or two of him being prescribed such. Cholesterol has been unfairly demonized over the past 50 years on the back of very poor science and researcher bias. Cholesterol is required by the body for many important processes, and especially brain function - - statistically speaking, taking a statin will not extend your life, but it will come with side effects. Choose carefully. Flame suit on...

Anyway, after thousands of hours of research and years of [ongoing] personal testing and experiments, I am an advocate of the above. I've never felt better or more mentally sharp. Physically stronger and leaner. And my chronic health issues including allergies and anxiety went away. No meds.

It's not easy making lifestyle changes, or choices that some experts will tell you are unhealthy or unethical (eg eating red meat and saturated fat). But there is abundant research and anecdotal support for the benefits of the above measures. And the results are tangible. There are too many of us with similar success stories.

Good luck with your journey and be well.



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brainz01 06-28-2025 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 12489204)
^^^ Awesome!!!

D and K2 are on my daily list and I take only one prescription drug.

Also, I filter all water, whole house and a Brita Jug.

Thanks again.

Thank you! And echoing a few off of your list:

- Creatine: Amazing for brain and muscle support - - better clarity, less anxiety, stronger in the gym. Very well researched.

- Essential oils. Lavender in the diffuser for relaxation. So nice... Tea Tree oil is hippie WD40 - - you can put that stuff on anything and it will make it better (I kid, kinda, but probably don't do that). But it does work great as an antibacterial for treating skin infections like zits, cuts, bug bites, hang nails, and the like.



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Por_sha911 06-28-2025 02:00 PM

I exercise the brain: math, music (which is math) and reading. I also pray what the Bible says:
"God did not give us a spirit of fear but of power, love, and a sound mind" 2 Tim 1:7

LWJ 06-28-2025 03:20 PM

I am starting to learn Italian on Monday! This has me terrified and excited all together.

wdfifteen 06-28-2025 05:44 PM

To me, people who make music and play chess are magicians. I watch as close as I can, and I still can't figure out how they do it.

Now and then I'll drag out my old Calculus book and work through a few problems. Riddle 3 made me a man.

3rd_gear_Ted 06-28-2025 05:53 PM

Check the rhythm of the wave sets and wade out into the surf and have that first wave roll over you as you paddle into the line up.
Look to the west and watch the sunrise
A quick thank you Jesus to clear your head and center your Chi.

"Catch a wave and your sitting on top of the world."

jyl 06-28-2025 06:53 PM

I’m in a book club, we are working through the Feyman Lectures. For most of Vol 1 I was reading carefully and following the math, now I’m just grokking the concepts - electrostatics lost my interest.

dw1 06-28-2025 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dixie (Post 12489070)
I drink. The alcohol kills off the slow, wounded brain cells leaving room for new, healthy ones. Now, where was I going with this post? :D

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Racerbvd 06-28-2025 07:00 PM

How is your hearing? They have figured that is a big issue, connected to dementia. If you are hard of hearing, go to a specialist and get a quality pair of hearing aids.

Alan A 06-28-2025 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dixie (Post 12489070)
I drink. The alcohol kills off the slow, wounded brain cells leaving room for new, healthy ones. Now, where was I going with this post? :D

That’s the Buffalo theory. Sadly it only works for the liver.

Brain cells don’t grow back. And - around here at least - it feels like the expression “they started with a gracious plenty” is in short supply.

A930Rocket 06-29-2025 06:10 AM

Nothing really. Staying busy with work, mentally and physically. Lots of reading. Parents lived to 91 and 95, but last years were with Alzheimer’s. Execute plan B early enough while I still have enough marbles.

masraum 06-29-2025 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted (Post 12489354)
Check the rhythm of the wave sets and wade out into the surf and have that first wave roll over you as you paddle into the line up.
Look to the west and watch the sunrise
A quick thank you Jesus to clear your head and center your Chi.

"Catch a wave and your sitting on top of the world."

What planet are you on? :D Sunrise is in the east, sunset is in the west.
You may want to do a bit more to boost your cognitive health. :D

Gogar 06-29-2025 10:46 AM

I like to drink and tell the same stories over and over and over and to refine the details.

wdfifteen 06-29-2025 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhynesrockmtn (Post 12489041)
Her Doc said the keys to staving off or slowing brain deterioration was social activity, physical activity and brain work. Puzzles, reading, hobbies.

The social activity is the hard one for me. There aren’t many people I enjoy spending time with.

masraum 06-29-2025 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12489630)
The social activity is the hard one for me. There aren’t many people I enjoy spending time with.

Yeah, my wife and this place is generally about as social as I want to be. I'm a little social at work, but not a lot.

herr_oberst 06-29-2025 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 12489623)
I like to drink and tell the same stories over and over and over and to refine the details.

I had dinner with a friend and her octogenarian parents last night. With very little alcohol at the table, I ended up telling a few stories over and over, because the parents were asking the same questions over and over.

stevej37 06-29-2025 01:14 PM

I read a lot. Car mag subs and a Kindle Reader. I have a few hundred books that I've read on it.
I especially like the reader...works great outdoors and is the weight of a thin paperback.

rwest 06-29-2025 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12489630)
The social activity is the hard one for me. There aren’t many people I enjoy spending time with.

I’m 57 and retired. I go to a late night swing dance every Thursday and mostly dance with girls and women younger than 25 or so, because that’s about all there is. They seem to like dancing with me and remembering so many names, jobs, schools and other facts about their lives has got to be good for my brain. Hopefully hanging around the youngsters will keep me at least young at heart.


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