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masraum 07-04-2025 09:39 AM

Oil analysis frequency, every time or ...?
 
For anyone that's had oil analysis done, how often do you get it done?

Is it a one-and-done sort thing? Just to ascertain the health of the motor or maybe every 5 years.

Do you get it done with every oil change? That seems excessive to me, but I think there are folks that go that route. I would think that if you stick with the same oil and oil change intervals that you shouldn't really need every oil change, especially if that is 3000-5000 miles and 3-5 times or more per year.

Or maybe once every year or 4-5 oil changes is a good period (assuming same oil and oil change intervals) to monitor the health of the engine over time.

jrj3rd 07-04-2025 10:18 AM

Every oil change. I just consider it an additional cost. Since I do my own changes it is still much cheaper then letting a dealership do the change.

masraum 07-04-2025 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jrj3rd (Post 12492482)
Every oil change. I just consider it an additional cost. Since I do my own changes it is still much cheaper then letting a dealership do the change.

Who are you using? Blackstone or Speediagnostix or...?

Steve Carlton 07-04-2025 11:14 AM

Are you taking about at-risk engines, like those with an IMS bearing, for example?

masraum 07-04-2025 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 12492522)
Are you taking about at-risk engines, like those with an IMS bearing, for example?

Sure, IMS or bore scoring or other vehicles. I guess your answer would depend on the possible issues.

Steve Carlton 07-04-2025 02:29 PM

I believe with the IMS bearing, early detection is critical before the motor is totaled. I've heard listening to the motor can be the best way to catch something even earlier.

Are you talking about a particular car or in general?

jrj3rd 07-04-2025 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12492485)
Who are you using? Blackstone or Speediagnostix or...?

Blackstone for last 20 years, but both have a great reputation.


2000 Boxster S so looking for any early indicators

speeder 07-04-2025 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrj3rd (Post 12492482)
Every oil change. I just consider it an additional cost. Since I do my own changes it is still much cheaper then letting a dealership do the change.

Have any of the reports ever had anything to be concerned about?

masraum 07-04-2025 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 12492601)
I believe with the IMS bearing, early detection is critical before the motor is totaled. I've heard listening to the motor can be the best way to catch something even earlier.

Are you talking about a particular car or in general?

In general really.
I just did my first using speediagnostix on both of our cars, my '08 boxster S w/90k+ miles (IMS not super likely, but bore scoring somewhat likely) and my wife's 2018 3.6L Outback w/118k miles.

masraum 07-04-2025 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jrj3rd (Post 12492622)
Blackstone for last 20 years, but both have a great reputation.


2000 Boxster S so looking for any early indicators

Nice. Wow 20 years of data!

stealthn 07-05-2025 07:32 AM

I do mine every year, last one Mobil 1 must have changed their additives as the numbers were way off. I contacted them but they wouldn’t comment on their formulation…smh

masraum 07-05-2025 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 12492863)
I do mine every year, last one Mobil 1 must have changed their additives as the numbers were way off. I contacted them but they wouldn’t comment on their formulation…smh

Do you change your oil more than once per year?

3rd_gear_Ted 07-05-2025 08:46 AM

Tribology is about trends in the change of the oil sample contamination, viscosity & chemical composition over time.

Tribology, the study of the interaction of sliding surfaces. It includes three subjects: friction, wear, and lubrication. There is a difficulty in that friction is generally characterized as a branch of physics or mechanical engineering, wear is part of the material science of metallurgy, while lubrication is a branch of chemistry.

Steve Carlton 07-05-2025 09:08 AM

It amazes me that oil can do what it does.

masraum 07-05-2025 11:53 AM

The results from my boxster
What's interesting is that I was previously running Mobil 1. In a 5000 mile oil change interval, I would have to put in probably 2 quarts. When I switched to Driven DT40, it seems like I only put in 1 quart and that was at 4000 miles. I didn't keep track of when I added oil, so I could be wrong.

This doesn't look bad. I also added a magnetic drain plug and it was almost completely clean. Of course, there's not tons of iron in these motors that is going to wear, I think, just the cams and coating on the skirts of the pistons (which is the important bit).
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1751744998.jpg

stealthn 07-05-2025 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12492884)
Do you change your oil more than once per year?

No just yearly, but 3 Porsches

jrj3rd 07-06-2025 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 12492653)
Have any of the reports ever had anything to be concerned about?

Nothing yet. Have noticed small changes between oil brands but nothing that would lead to an issue (knock on wood)

masraum 07-06-2025 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 12493247)
No just yearly, but 3 Porsches

OK, so technically every oil change.

That's another thing that I've wondered about, how often do oil manufacturers change their additive package? You get an oil that you like and works well, but then they change it and is isn't protecting like it once was. Without the analysis you don't know.

Which Mobil 1 are you using? I've always hated buying M1 because at the store there are usually half a dozen different versions and there's no clear indication exactly what makes them different other than the marketing stuff (high mileage, extended coverage, European cars, etc...)

I found this Mobil 1 link a couple of weeks back that is supposed to have more info about the additives (specifically the Phosphorous and Zinc levels (aka ZDDP), but they don't list the levels of molybdenum which is important for our Aluminum based (pistons and bores) motors.

I've also heard that not all of the versions of Liquimoly oil have molybdenum in their additive package.

masraum 07-06-2025 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jrj3rd (Post 12493279)
Nothing yet. Have noticed small changes between oil brands but nothing that would lead to an issue (knock on wood)

What oil are you using?


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