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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 12539306)

An interesting topic is how elevators contributed to the advent of tall buildings.

One of my most interesting elevator rides was up to the 102nd-floor observation deck at NYC's One World Trade Center. Three walls of the car are full-length video screens that depict the development of Manhattan as you asend. You start out in the bedrock of a forested island, then pass up thru time all the way to the point of the building's construction. The elevation and chronology are displayed on the wall as you witness the changes in the surrounding landscape over the years.

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Originally Posted by oldE (Post 12538850)

Use the F ing stairs.

I always take the stairs, if I can find them. It's not that I don't like elevators, it's for the exercise.

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 12539306)

An interesting topic is how elevators contributed to the advent of tall buildings.

Without structural engineering to build taller buildings, elevators probably weren’t needed? What was the physical limit of buildings before steel, etc.?

You just need to stand on a skateboard. Those guys never break their legs as long as they stay on the board. Elevators have grab rails so it shouldnt be too hard

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 12540096)

Without structural engineering to build taller buildings, elevators probably weren’t needed? What was the physical limit of buildings before steel, etc.?

No physical limit on the buildings beyond what existed at the time of construction. But how many flights of stairs would people tolerate in the buildings with only stairs?

That's what Denis was saying people weren't going to climb 30 floors to their office or dwelling.

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12539920)

I used to work on the 11th floor of a 35 floor building. One of the guys that we worked with was trying to lose weight so we all started "doing the stairs" with him. At first, we'd go 11-->G-->11 a couple/few times per day. We worked up to going 11--> G --> 15 --> 11. And then, as you can imagine with a bunch of dudes, some folks were running, so everyone was running, or you'd get to a floor and say "I feel pretty good, should we go another few floors" to which the next guy would respond "hell, this is easy" and we'd feed off of each other. One day that went on until we all ran from 0 up to the top of the stairs at the door to the roof. The trip back down from 35 to 11 was rough. You'd never think that going down would be so hard...

Yeah, going down is a bicth. When I moved to my town 26 years ago I started running the stairs at a 4 story parking garage downtown. Run up and take the elevator down. Maybe 5 or 6 climbs at a time almist every day. It was perfect, catch my breath and drain the lactic acid from the legs on the elevator ride down. Did this for a month before maintainance caught on and booted me

My last corp ran a free trolly to remote parking lots and our other location a few city blocks away ... I usually walked.

Keep a large roll of bubble wrap in the corner of the elevator.

Greg, run up, walk down, find more than one place to go maybe

The biggest change the elevator brought was the best apartments and offices went from the ground floor to the top floor. No one, not even a top athlete wants to carry two bags of groceries up stairs. Of course the view of the top floors is usually better.

Before the elevator, the rich wanted the bottom floor or had a private house.

I prefer my single story house that has a single step up to get inside from the garage. I get my exercise by edging the 1/4 mile of sidewalk edges and mowing the yard. Usually two or two and a half hours. No riding equipment. About 2.5 miles of walking, while using some form of yard equipment.

The top floor was cooler and cleaner too. There were pluses and minuses.

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 12540703)

Greg, run up, walk down, find more than one place to go maybe

Even walking down is hard on the knees and back. I was really addicted to running but turned to cycling 20 years ago at 50. Probably a good decision (until I get run over by someone texting)