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vash 10-16-2025 09:03 AM

does anyone monitor their sleep with a smart watch?
 
how?

how does it even work? i can see how they can read HR. easy. mine just told me i got 2.5 hours of REM. come on!

i had 16 minutes of wakefullness, which seem right. i did toss/turn when i woke from a crap dream i cant remember.

rwest 10-16-2025 09:20 AM

I have no clue- magic?

I rarely wear my Garmin except during exercise, but every once and awhile I wear it to bed just to see what my resting heart rate is. Here’s my chart from a couple days ago.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1760635241.jpg

Deschodt 10-16-2025 09:29 AM

I did sleep with a pulse oxymeter all night, mapping to my phone... several times in fact, to see if my CPAP machine was bull****. A: it was not...
Not sure the REM and stuff is accurate but I did start dreaming again when I went CPAP.

vash 10-16-2025 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rwest (Post 12548168)
I have no clue- magic?

I rarely wear my Garmin except during exercise, but every once and awhile I wear it to bed just to see what my resting heart rate is. Here’s my chart from a couple days ago.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1760635241.jpg

hey. how do you activate that battery body charge thing? i cant figure that out.

i'm almost dead when i sleep. i have 9 breaths per minute. i'm like a baluga whale.

rwest 10-16-2025 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 12548179)
hey. how do you activate that battery body charge thing? i cant figure that out.

i'm almost dead when i sleep. i have 9 breaths per minute. i'm like a baluga whale.

No idea, it just shows up on my screen and I also can’t figure out what it means, because it has both a positive and negative number?

vash 10-16-2025 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rwest (Post 12548183)
No idea, it just shows up on my screen and I also can’t figure out what it means, because it has both a positive and negative number?

googling the hell out of it as we type.

i just turned it on, at the watch.

dad911 10-16-2025 09:47 AM

I do, with a smart watch from Amazon.

Didn't realize how bad my sleep pattern was. Very little deep sleep. W/o gummies.

With a gummy? Big improvement. I also lost alot of weight once my sleep improved.

YMMV

vash 10-16-2025 09:51 AM

i average 9+ hours a night. my wife calls it my superpower.

gacook 10-16-2025 11:33 AM

What watch are you using? I've got a Samsung that I wear. It does a pretty remarkable job monitoring sleep (and daily crap) and within their app (on the phone), it explains each area that it's monitoring. Gives you a detailed breakdown of trends, what the various readings mean, how to improve them, etc.

gacook 10-16-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 12548197)
i average 9+ hours a night. my wife calls it my superpower.

You sound like my wife...she generally gets 9+ hours/night and is a zombie the next day if she doesn't. I'm in the 4-5hr/night range myself.

masraum 10-16-2025 12:30 PM

I think it's mostly HR and then how much you move around, possible pulse-ox for the watches with that feature. I guess the theory is that if you're moving around, then you're not sound asleep.

I've worn mine to sleep once or twice. I have no idea what it said. Normally, I put my watch on the charger when I shower at the end of the day and put it back on in the morning.

I have an OLD Apple watch. I need to upgrade to a new/newer version.

I'm usually sleeping within minutes of my head hitting the pillow. I think I do wake up 2-3 times during the night, but I think I fall back to sleep almost immediately. I think I tend to get 7-8 hours of sleep per night (based on when I go to bed and when I get up). Some weekend days I may get 8-9 hours.

Arizona_928 10-16-2025 01:16 PM

Yeah, that’s how a coworker figured out how their mum passed way.

jyl 10-16-2025 01:31 PM

I use an iPhone app. It listens to your breathing and movements, figures out when you're awake, REM sleep, deep sleep, apnea, coughing, etc. Rather useful and amusing - I get excited when I hit 100% sleep score and depressed when I am sleeping at 60%, which is pretty often. It is very accurate at knowing when I'm awake vs asleep, so i figure it is pretty good a deep vs REM, and of course it can detect breathing and non-breathing fine. Don't think a smartwatch would add much other than HR, not sure how useful that it unless it is zero.

Bill Verburg 10-16-2025 02:04 PM

I wear my Garmin all the time, mostly it confirms what I already knew from how i felt but it's interesting to see the subtle change in resting HR, breathing rate, HRV, Oxygen levels etc I teven keeps track of naps.

You can see when you are overdoing it, sick, or just hungover

even better it keeps track of all the metrics so you can compare today to last year to 10yrs ago, I use it in conjunction w/ Garmin Connect as the watch only remembers for a few years.it

feels good to see that my 76 yr old resting HR is the same as my 40 year old one.

masraum 10-16-2025 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg (Post 12548361)
I wear my Garmin all the time, mostly it confirms what I already knew from how i felt but it's interesting to see the subtle change in resting HR, breathing rate, HRV, Oxygen levels etc I teven keeps track of naps.

You can see when you are overdoing it, sick, or just hungover

even better it keeps track of all the metrics so you can compare today to last year to 10yrs ago, I use it in conjunction w/ Garmin Connect as the watch only remembers for a few years.it

feels good to see that my 76 yr old resting HR is the same as my 40 year old one.

I have read about coaches that had athletes (I can't remember if it was HS or College) keep track of their morning resting heart rate. When they noticed that it went up (presumably outside of the normal range that is probably pretty stable in young folks) that meant that they were going to get sick which they did within 24-48 hours. I've never had the discipline to check religiously in the morning as soon as I open my eyes and before I get out of bed.

Bill Verburg 10-16-2025 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12548384)
I have read about coaches that had athletes (I can't remember if it was HS or College) keep track of their morning resting heart rate. When they noticed that it went up (presumably outside of the normal range that is probably pretty stable in young folks) that meant that they were going to get sick which they did within 24-48 hours. I've never had the discipline to check religiously in the morning as soon as I open my eyes and before I get out of bed.

My Garmin gives me a morning report every AM, first thing when I sit down w/ my cuppa, it goes the basics and tosses in a weather report, sunrise/sunset time and moon phase.

Joeaksa 10-16-2025 04:04 PM

About 5-6 years ago I came down with A-Fib. Heart beating 120+ BPM and would not slow down.

Doctor got some meds in me and we fixed it for a while but not forever. Finally bought a Samsung Smart watch and started wearing and recording my heart (and other healthy stuff) so that I could show it to the medical folks.

It even monitors my heart and should it revert back to A-Fib again will send a message to my cell phone. Had an operation on the heart 15 months ago (Abilation) and not a single episode since. I still wear the watch much of the time just to keep an eye on things, especially while sleeping and it does a great job keeping an eye on my feeble ticker!

wdfifteen 10-16-2025 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 12548418)
. Finally bought a Samsung Smart watch and started wearing and recording my heart (and other healthy stuff) so that I could show it to the medical folks.

Did you calibrate it to their metrics, or were you only interested in relative changes vs absolute numbers?

Joeaksa 10-16-2025 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 12548433)
Did you calibrate it to their metrics, or were you only interested in relative changes vs absolute numbers?

No calibration at all, just wore it out of the box and it was as accurate as the instruments in my doctors office. It checks my heart every 10 minutes (will do it all the time if needed but wears down the battery) then sends the data to my cell phone. I can then download the data and give it to the doctor from there.

juanbenae 10-16-2025 04:36 PM

I use my CPAP machine to monitor. Get a weekly update via email from a site the machine connects to with nightly reports that include time slept, mask fit, apnea events, with a "sleep score". I can tell the nights I drink by the results v. not drink.

Cajundaddy 10-16-2025 06:14 PM

I have been wearing an Apple Smartwatch to bed for about 1 year and comparing the analysis to my personal observations. I think it does a pretty great job. It monitors pulse and respiration rate, sleep duration, REM, deep sleep, and core. When I have waking moments like to let the dog out at 3AM it is logged accurately. I think it is a useful tool.

I do snore occasionally and wondered if apnea was an issue. The respiration rate is pretty steady from 12-15/hr so... no apnea.

cabmandone 10-17-2025 03:40 AM

I used to. But I can't stand wearing a watch to bed. I've been thinking about an Oura ring. A doctor/friend told he they'll tell you you're getting sick before you know you're getting sick.

gacook 10-17-2025 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmandone (Post 12548599)
I used to. But I can't stand wearing a watch to bed. I've been thinking about an Oura ring. A doctor/friend told he they'll tell you you're getting sick before you know you're getting sick.

My buddy and his girlfriend use the Aura rings and swear by them. He tells me it's better/more accurate than his Apple Watch was.

Seahawk 10-17-2025 10:54 AM

We bought a sleep number bed a few months ago...eerie how accurate the sleep cycles the system presented were.

I found my number and turned the rest of the stuff off.

cabmandone 10-18-2025 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gacook (Post 12548787)
My buddy and his girlfriend use the Aura rings and swear by them. He tells me it's better/more accurate than his Apple Watch was.

But then you've got the "Oura Ring finger" and "Apple Watch Elbow" to contend with... :D

I stopped wearing my apple watch for a while because I swore it was making my elbow hurt. Turns out, it's a thing. It wasn't the cause for me, nor is it likely the cause for others... but it's a thing!

A930Rocket 10-18-2025 02:19 AM

I’m interested in an Apple smart watch, but I don’t want to cough up the money for something I have to take off every day to charge. I wear my watch daily and don’t take it off.

Little Rocket man wears the Oura ring. I just looked at them online and was surprised how expensive they were. I had no idea.

cabmandone 10-18-2025 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 12549070)
I’m interested in an Apple smart watch, but I don’t want to cough up the money for something I have to take off every day to charge. I wear my watch daily and don’t take it off.

Little Rocket man wears the Oura ring. I just looked at them online and was surprised how expensive they were. I had no idea.

They charge pretty fast and the charge lasts for about two days, or at least mine does. And yeah, the price of the Oura is why I don't wear one now. But the information they can provide definitely has me considering getting one.

recycled sixtie 10-18-2025 04:23 AM

I have a Fitbit Charge6 and it is way cheaper than an Apple watch but gives enough info such as steps, sleep,atrial affib etc. It is about my third Fitbit since buying one about eight years ago.

Skip Newsom 10-18-2025 07:14 AM

I’ve gone though a few Fitbit’s over several years, rarely wore them overnight until the last few months.
I did have the “premium” service for a while then cancelled that subscription.
It gives an amazing amount of data even without the subscription.
Seems pretty accurate, I noticed my SPO2 readings drop to 90% during the early part of our trip to Colorado then gradually creep back up to 95 or better.

Thankfully I got my Moms ability to sleep well for the most part, Dad always had issues with even the smallest noise waking him up, he used to sleep walk also. I stay put until the bladder says HEY THERE!

I’ve noticed the daily readiness ratings seem to reflect my overall feeling for any particular day and the REM time frames reflect when I was dreaming.
How it works is a mystery, seems pretty spot on.

I do like its ability to track walks, time on the elliptical and bicycle rides- recent examples:

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Cajundaddy 10-18-2025 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 12549070)
I’m interested in an Apple smart watch, but I don’t want to cough up the money for something I have to take off every day to charge. I wear my watch daily and don’t take it off.

Everything is a tradeoff and there is no way around recharging a smartwatch. I take it off first thing after waking and by the time I finished my coffee it is back to 100%. A pretty simple step really.

red-beard 10-22-2025 05:11 PM

Yep - Samsung Galaxy Watch 6. It looks at HR, HR variability, movement, listens for snoring and oxygen level. It gives you a sleep score based on length of sleep, how much time in the different modes (Light, REM, Deep, etc.).

The watch then take this, combines it with activity level and gives you an energy score as well.

The GW8 does a lot more. I have no need to upgrade.

I also track my BP & Weight with the same Samsung Health program. It tracks steps, activity level, workouts.

During the day, since I wear a regular watch, I wear a Samsung Gearfit 2 which tracks HR, Steps.

Joeaksa 10-22-2025 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajundaddy (Post 12549180)
Everything is a tradeoff and there is no way around recharging a smartwatch. I take it off first thing after waking and by the time I finished my coffee it is back to 100%. A pretty simple step really.

Same here, my Samsung 7 lasts 2.5 days on a charge so its not a problem.

red-beard 10-22-2025 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajundaddy (Post 12549180)
Everything is a tradeoff and there is no way around recharging a smartwatch. I take it off first thing after waking and by the time I finished my coffee it is back to 100%. A pretty simple step really.

Well, the solution is to have 2 watches...

I have a Smart Watch for night and a Fitness tracker for during the day. So one is always on the charger. I still have 2 x GW6 but I like the small Samsung Gearfit 2 since I wear a regular mechanical watch on my left wrist.

A930Rocket 10-22-2025 06:29 PM

So what model Apple smart watch do you guys have? I saw one that had a sports band, I think it was… a Velcro strap. I thought that would be quick and easy to put on.

vash 10-22-2025 06:45 PM

My Garmin goes 11 days. It gets some boost via solar.

cabmandone 10-23-2025 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 12551750)
So what model Apple smart watch do you guys have? I saw one that had a sports band, I think it was… a Velcro strap. I thought that would be quick and easy to put on.

Mine is a non cellular series 8. You can get whatever band you want for the watch on Amazon.

Seahawk 10-23-2025 04:33 AM

We went with a Sleep Number bed last year in South Carolina. We liked it so much we bought one for the farm as well. (still splitting time).

My wife has the app that does the sleep analysis and it seems to track. Once we got it dialed in, we turned off the "bedbot".


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