Nutty dentist calls cops on patient that does not allow AI to transcribe notes

[masraum]

Interesting. A dentist wanted to us AI for transcribing notes for the patient's visit. He asked for permission, and she said "no". The dentist tried to convince her, but she wouldn't budge, so he asked his office person to call the police. Once the police arrived they told the patient to go home. The dentist sounds like a whack job. But of course, I wasn't there. Maybe the patient was the whack job (doesn't look like it in the video) or maybe both of them are/were.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15263799/Melbourne-dentist-AI-arrest-Caerwin-Martin.html

A Melbourne woman was left stunned after her dentist called police during a bizarre encounter - all because she didn't want him using artificial intelligence during her appointment.

Caerwin Martin, 52, says the strange situation unfolded during a routine check-up for a toothache, but quickly spiralled when the periodontist asked for her consent to use an AI program to take notes.

Feeling uneasy about her private medical information being uploaded online and concerned about the safety of the software, Ms Martin refused, sparking an extraordinary reaction that left her in disbelief.

'I'm just so shocked,' she told Daily Mail. 'It was just the most bizarre situation. I had the cops called for not wanting to use AI to take my notes.'

'The police officer thought it was quite funny. He walked up and goes, 'what's going on?' This was a triple zero call, an emergency, and there's me sitting calmly in the waiting room.'

The incident unfolded earlier this week when Ms Martin attended a specialist appointment with a periodontist she had been referred to after ongoing issues with pain.

'He said he was using AI to make notes and write referrals and I said no, I'm a musician and I'm divesting in AI,' she said.

'He kind of froze and looked at his assistant and after that became really agitated.

'The receptionist, who was a bit perplexed, called the police, called triple zero.'

Ms Martin says she remained seated in the waiting room until officers arrived and, after briefly speaking to them, she left and has not heard back since.

Feeling uneasy about the confrontation, she later contacted the Dental Board of Australia for advice.

'They were amazing. They said I absolutely did have the right to choose and what happened shouldn't have happened,' she said.

'And what I think this raises is a bit of a conversation around AI use in medical practitioners.

'I know people are often asked by GPs if they do use AI, do they have your consent and permission and of course you should be allowed to say no.

'I have lots of ethical reasons why I don't want AI to have access to my medical records.

'Im a musician and I'm offended that the government had to step in to stop AI from hoovering up all of our stuff.

'So I have a boycott on AI anyway and I don't think AI is good for the world.'

Last month the Australian government blocked artificial intelligence companies from training their models on Australian creative works.

The move could have seen local artists' work recreated and used with no royalties paid.

'I also don't want my medical records to be written by anyone other than the medical professional,' Ms Martin added.

'I'm very concerned that ChatGPT had leaks. I don't think it's secure and I don't trust it.

'I understand if doctors are pressed for time they may want to use it and maybe there is an argument about keeping costs down, but we should all have the right to say no thank-you very much.'

[Arizona_928]

VA is using ai to process claims with the deciding factor being signed off by a human.

My private pcp asked if i consented to the voice ai recording/transcriber. Makes wiring their notes easier.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Arizona_928

VA is using ai to process claims with the deciding factor being signed off by a human.

My private pcp asked if i consented to the voice ai recording/transcriber. Makes wiring their notes easier.

Presumably, AI used for transcribing notes for Medical must be hipaa compliant, but just because that's the case, doesn't mean that anyone has confirmed that it is.

[dad911]

Feeding AI sure seems like a HIPAA violation to me. I would say no to the doc.

It appears AI agrees with me, lol

[Noah930]

The AI programs used for medical transcription aren't ChatGPT.

[john70t]

Do they autocorrect prescription handwriting?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Noah930

The AI programs used for medical transcription aren't ChatGPT.

Right, and presumably, they are private vs public with data able to be isolated from other data and users.