Today is a special day for all of us

[targa911S]

Today is 9-11 and although those towel heads put a black mark on the day, it is still a special day. It's 911! How many of you drove your car today? Happy 911 to all.

#9110310111

It's only 911 to you americans. Normal people say 11-9-2003.

Day month year is more logical



BTW I drove my 911 today



Special thanks to Wayne for his remembrance pic on the main page.

[Rick Lee]

Mikkel, I agree. We should change the order around in dates. I wouldn't mind the metric system either. But I digress....

I was a Porsche newbie when Sept. 11 happened. On that day my car fetish suddenly did not seem too important anymore. Two days later I had to drive into the office and sat in parking-lot-like traffic on the hwy. because the Pentagon had started checking ID's on every single car that went into their lot. I live 12 miles south of the Pentagon and traffic was backed up well south of my house. We could still see the smoke then too.

Today, while driving to the Metro station I was racking my brain, trying to remember what I had done on Sept. 10, 2001 or even what the train ride into work was like the next morning. But I could not. That was a different era and is gone forever.

[Jdub]

I agree with Mikkel -- this is a date unique to Americans and you can bet we'll never forget it. Ever.

God bless America.

John

[trj911]

May God continue to have mercy on all uf us!

[Paul Franssen]

...and the madness goes on...and on...and on.
Whether it be 1973 in Chili, 2001 the USA (the most poignant, of course), today Sweden (their lady Foreign affairs minister was stabbed and died of it, left a husband and 2 small kids), every day the Palestine/Israel mirror. The nature of the beast? My thoughts do go out to the victims of those others who think they can take other people's lives into their own hands and throw them away like so much thrash. Bastards, the lot of 'em. I guess I better shut up and stick to the 911 we all like...

[Purrybonker]

those towel heads put a black mark on the day

...I suspect that remarks like that do little but exacerbate some of the root issues at play in the world today...

perhaps we're better off without them.

[Rick Lee]

Originally posted by Purrybonker
...I suspect that remarks like that do little but exacerbate some of the root issues at play in the world today...

perhaps we're better off without them.

You're right. They took their towels off before the went to the airport to hijack the planes that day. But I think they wore them while training in Afghanistan.

[nostatic]

I joined the Pelican BBS on Sept. 10 2001, so I believe I'm to blame for the whole thing...

[old_skul]

Off topic, anyone?

I can't believe the phrase "towel heads" is being tossed around in public so casually. Hey, I live in Cincinnati, can I complain about the n-----s downtown because of the riots?

[tabs]

9/11/01 will go down as Black a Day as 12/7/41. On both days America was rocked to the core by sneak attacks. On both days America learned it cannot retreat from plying an active part in the world.

[targa911S]

I think I'm sorry I started this. 9-11 in the past to me and my family was always celebrated as our cars birthday. I know it's corny but we all love this car a lot. I always drive it on 9-11 and it is well known among my friends that we celebrate today as the day the best car in the world was created. She even gets cards from some of my P head friends. If I was out of line as far as being PC...well so be it. As far as the Cincy thing, if they killed 3,000 people in your town in the riots you may well using "that" word to refer to the murderers. Anyway, this thread was not meant to be a downer. It was meant to be a celebration of excellence.

[banjomike]

On 9/11/01 we should have learned that we cannot continue to actively support dictators and terrorists throughout the world without the turning on us from time to time. (Rememer we made Bin Laden what he is today so he could be an anti-soviet terrorist, and old Saddam Hussein's worst atrocities were carried out with the blessing, funding, and the intelligence support of the good ole USA) Remeber when the CIA helped overthrow the democratically elected government of Iran and install the Shah? We are still reaping the rewards of that. On another 9/11 the US, Kissinger in particular, reaped the rewards of several years of destabilization in Chile. 20 years of Pinochet 'disapearing' dissidents one result. Another result was an assasination carried out with a car-bomb right in our own nation's catpital in the late '70s. If we look at latin america, there is a direct correlation between our level of historical intervention and poverty. Hati is the country we have intervened in the most, and it is the poorest. This contimues through the list, Columbia, Nicaraugua, El Salvador... In southeast asia our active participation in the world (illegal carpet bombing of cambodia) led to the Khmer Rouge comming to power. Pol Pot and his thugs killed millions. The US is now the largest supplier of arms to the world, with over 60% of the market. And finally lets not forget how Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker served as key financiers of Hitler's rise to power.

It is not the lack of involvment, but the nature of the US involvment in the rest of the world that leads to attacks against us.

In fact around the planet people love America and what we represent. But they understand that just because they hate our foreign policy they don't have to hate us. Too bad people here can't make that distinction.

[targa911S]

come on people let's lighten up.

[Rick Lee]

Mike, I think you may have been buzzed by too many black helicopters. The blame-America-first crowd will never have my sympathy.

Your version of events, while perhaps factually accurate, is how repressive countries portray us in their textbooks - not how our leaders envision things when they implement foreign policy. If we really wanted to make the world poorer, it would be much easier than what we really intend to do.

[pwd72s]

Originally posted by Mikkel
It's only 911 to you americans. Normal people say 11-9-2003.

Day month year is more logical



BTW I drove my 911 today



Special thanks to Wayne for his remembrance pic on the main page.

11 Sept. '01....(If I'm not mistaken the US military way of dating documents & correspondence )...may we NEVER forget.

[nostatic]

Richard, it isn't that we want the world poorer, we just want ourselves richer. That is the end game. And for many players throughout US history, the ends justify the means.

Our country has a history of choosing our "assistance opportunities" with a very simple set of criteria: will it make us money. The official term for that now is "will it make us safer". But terrorists are everywhere, not just in oil-bearing countries.

We had a crew shoot a documentary in Cambodia last year. What went on there was stunning. Almost all of the educated people were eradicated. At the end of Pot's regime, there were a total of 20 physicians in the entire country. Millions of people were killed. We're talking Holocaust proportions. Didn't seem to make our radar though. If only Cambodia had natural gas reserves, and Dick had Halliburton ready to "help."

There are people in government that want to do good. And there are people in government that want to get rich at anyone's expense (including yours). Then there's Microsoft...I don't even want to start with how much evil resides there

[singpilot]

Just saw a resurgence of a proposal for 'ground zero' again.

Lets rebuild the towers (along with a suitable memorial) and name the towers "Freedom" and "Unity" and not tell any of the 'foreigners' what the initials stand for.

[Rick Lee]

Ah, more of the blame-America-first. Last I checked, we did not create the Khmer Rouge, even if we didn't jump right out of one frying pan in Vietnam intp the fire nextdoor to stop Pol Pot. Then Dick Cheney was Pres. Ford's WH chief of staff at the ripe old age of 31. He didn't start making real money until AFTER the first Gulf War. So of course, everything that happened in between had to be a result of his perosnal greed and never to increase profits for his shareholders - crazy thing CEO's are supposed to do sometimes.

The hardships of history do not all fall on our shoulders because we may have had the power to ease them. I'm sure we'll get blamed by the South Korean youth once we either withdraw and they get invaded, or the North implodes and they get flooded with refugees. It's always our fault. Tell me one thing we could do to make Osama bin Laden call it even, forgive and forget - one thing, name it!

[Rick Lee]

Actually, I'd love to have the twin towers rebuilt exactly as the were, but make them one story taller.