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ronin 11-03-2003 09:39 PM

by the way
 
in case you missed it

Museum of Flight (Seattle) is getting a Concorde

discuss..

MFAFF 11-03-2003 11:06 PM

Lets just hope the Boeing Museum of FLight give it a good home and keep it airworthy.....

Its the best hope any of us have for seeing one preserved correctly.

I do think its very funny that BA, also known as Boeing Always in view of its continued purchasing of Boeing products inspite increasing pressue to buy Airbus, is giving Boeing the 'prize' product of aviation.

I hope it will allow the next generation of of SSTs to be born little sooner.

Maybe it should be displayed next to the mock-up of the B2707, opps Boeing got rid of that years ago.

The irony of it all is just too sweet for words.

ronin 11-03-2003 11:50 PM

with all the trouble over the decades of making SST feasible in the US, I wonder if the concept still has a chance to come to fruition here

Harlan Chinn 11-04-2003 08:14 AM

Boeing already bagged the idea of the sonic cruiser... We can only hope they decide to do the 7E7 here.

ronin 11-04-2003 06:02 PM

so do I but I'm definitely not holding my breath on that

emwporsche 11-06-2003 12:17 AM

that is curious.
I have been parking my concorde in front of my APT for 3 months now.
no one has said anything, much less written an article about it.

I don't like Boeing. My granpa was just about to retire from them and they cut him short and gave him a watch.

ronin 11-06-2003 12:20 AM

well, let's just say the Concorde we're talking about wasn't built by AMC :D

sorry about your grandfather. perhaps it'll help that the Concorde wasn't built by boeing ;)

RickC 11-06-2003 07:09 AM

Beautiful plane.....

How's the museum up in Seattle? I'm out there once in awhile.

Just got my first look at the Wright/Patterson Air Force Museum in Dayton, OH last summer. It is better than what I remember from the Air & Space Museum in DC, though I haven't seen the new Dulles Annex yet....

MFAFF 11-07-2003 01:27 AM

The Boeing opps Seattle, Museum of Flight is one of the top museums in the world......

Wright Pat and Air and Space are up there as well.

All worth visit.


If you're eve over here the place o go is Duxford....and they have a shed load of Airworthy aircraft as well......
http://www.iwm.org.uk/duxford/index.htm

Pike 11-21-2003 10:38 PM

The museum is awsome. There are a whole lot of planes there, all very well cared for. An SR-71, an old Air Force One, etc. I have a couple of friends that work there.

pwd72s 11-24-2003 04:46 PM

The Germans may build great cars, but they have to admit that Boeing built a great bomber back in the 40's. I have an uncle who piloted a B-17. He didn't want to fly again after the war...but I don't think that was Boeing's doing...

Harlan Chinn 11-24-2003 04:57 PM

If WWII had gone a few months longer, we all might be speaking German right now. The Germans had an advanced jet program that was just about ready to pardon the pun get off the ground when the war ended, Thanks to your uncle and other B-17 pilots. The Germans had a jet powered flying wing much like our stealth bomber of today.

MFAFF 11-25-2003 03:44 AM

The Germans had the weapons to win before 1945.....but they didn't use them to their 'best' advantage.

But then again nobody had ever used them before and its only after the event that you figure out what the best use was....

Luckily for us.

PS Both the Arado 246 (?) a twin engine jet bomber and the Horten FLying wing (AKA B" in 1944/45) will be displayed at the Udvar Hazy Centre at Dulles international in the near future.

Check out that hi-tech stuff, even compared to the B-29.

Also just to nit pick the MoF in Seattle has the only survinig M-12 aircraft. Its version of the SR-71 predecessor the A-12, modified to carry a D-21 drone and the launch control officer in the second rear seat.....

A12 are to SR-71 what early long hoods are to post 74 911, lighter and more numble but pretty much the same...

Dantilla 11-25-2003 07:34 AM

I was at Boeing Field to watch the Concorde make its final landing.

Way cool. The following day, I heard the captian say on a radio interview that Seattle was chosen because of the excellent care that airplanes receive at the MoF. It's one of the top museums anywhere.

ronin 11-26-2003 08:56 AM

sad but true

Harlan Chinn 11-26-2003 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RickC

Not really. If WWII had gone a few months longer, some German city would have the unhappy distinction that Hiroshima now holds. [/B]
Hmmmmm....I don't think so...too many Americans with German decent...unfortunately it was a decision based on race

Harlan Chinn 11-26-2003 10:56 AM

It's nice to know that we have such a highly regarded Museum of Flight here in Seattle

RickC 11-26-2003 11:01 AM

Point taken.

I hope to see the Seattle museum on my next biz trip....

ronin 11-26-2003 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ronin
sad but true
lol, someone pulled their post

RickC 11-26-2003 11:48 AM

Sorry, that was me. Listen Folks: He's not saying sad but true about the museum. I got a little off topic - didn't realize it would mess up his post. Post ahead of his read:

Not really. If WWII had gone a few months longer, some German city would have the unhappy distinction that Hiroshima now holds.

Harlan Chinn 11-26-2003 11:52 AM

That was quite the lengthy post. Maybe we can gather Pelicanites at the Museum of Flight sometime for a group tour

ronin 11-26-2003 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RickC
Sorry, that was me. Listen Folks: He's not saying sad but true about the museum. I got a little off topic - didn't realize it would mess up his post. Post ahead of his read:

Not really. If WWII had gone a few months longer, some German city would have the unhappy distinction that Hiroshima now holds.

redemption :D

ronin 11-26-2003 12:10 PM

or should I say arigato gojaimashda

tabs 11-26-2003 02:23 PM

There were 2 reasons why Truman decided to drop the Bomb on Japan.
1. If the USA had invaded the home islands there were going to be an estimated 1,000,000 US casualities.

2. Truman wanted to show the Russians what we had and weren't afraid to use it.


The Planes of Fame Museum in Chino CA, has planes that are operational that no one else has. Including one of the only operational Zeros, they have a Val Dive Bomber, Oka flying Bomb, an ME 262 and ME 163. Plus Charles Nussengers Nieport fighter. They also have an operational B-17 and B-25.

I had 2 friends that flew in the ETO during WW2, one had 10 missions in a B-24 and the other flew a P-51 in the same Group as Chuck Yeager. Both are passed away now.

If any of you remember the movie Dr. Stranglove the scenes of flying over the ice were done with a B-17. If you look closely you can see the shadow of the B-17 in the film, vs the B-52 that it is supposed to be. The B-17 was one of the BEST planes ever built. Totally a remarkable plane.

ronin 11-26-2003 10:26 PM

that is the absolute truth. (re: B17) as for Dr. Strangelove, that has to be one of the best films I have ever seen. never laughed harder. Kubrik's finest IMO


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