eRAM electric supecharger dyno test day invitation next week

[zanick2]

It has been a long time, but I though i would extent an invitation to anyone in the Bay Area to visit and watch some dyno testing at the Santa Clara, Mustang Ranch dynoJet 248e. We will be testing a 928 and a 3.2 liter porsche.

Tuesday at 1pm is the time. We will be testing and video taping the gains of the newest eRAM electric supercharger.
The newest version is pretty amazing. we got the RPMs of the fan up by around 2000rpm to a max speed of 25,5000rpm, and possibly higher in the intake track, under WOT. The current has gone up to 55amps and the pressure has increased as well. preliminary tests show over 3.5lbs of raw thrust, and that is significant out of a 3.5" diameter fan. as any familuar with air flow will appriciate, as the speed of the air increaes, the pressure and gains go up squared. So , this 10% or so of rpm increase, can improve the actual pressure by quite a bit more.

IN any event , we will be there and will pay for 1/2 of your porsche dyno run if you are interesting in testing the eRAM on your car as well. 1st two folks that contact me can participate.
Otherwise, come on down and watch.

Mark

[dotorg]

Wonder if I could wire one inline with my heater hoses, and get my heat working better

[CamB]

Someone please go - I want a full report!!

Cam (one of the non-believers last time)

[rvanderpyl]

Man Wayne you are cruel

[johncj8989]

Can it be purchased for the amazing low price of $19.95?
If you throw in a set of Ginsu Knives I may take the plunge.

Now where is my can of spray-on hair??

[zanick2]

Take your shop vac, point the blower at your face and imagine 4X the flow. it could save a lot of time in the morning with the hair dryer. Just get in your car with wet hair, put on goggles, and turn on your heater.

CamB, if you trust Scot Graham, known among the porsche racers here on the west coast, he will be testing his new race car, a 928. He still has the production class 911, that we tested before.
scot goes by GoldRacer (i think) on this board.

I want it to be a very comprehensive test. we will video the entire thing, and do tests you just cant do with other mods . Like, run the eRAM, and mid way through the run, turn it off. start a run, and then turn the eRAM on toward the end of the run. we really want to emphasize that it works and is pretty predictable as far as results.

We will also be testing the super eRAM (two compressors in series) which is double the pressure. the gains were about 50% higher on our original tests, but we did this on a 911 with leaky air box.

I hope someone from the list can make it.

Mk

Originally posted by dotorg
Wonder if I could wire one inline with my heater hoses, and get my heat working better

[petevb]

Zanick-

I was wondering if you could publish to the group the way you intend to conduct the back to back test? That is- do you plan to take a stock, unmodified vehicle, dyno it, then install the E-ram and then dyno it that way? Or will the E-ram already be installed on the vehicle for the runs without it? A detailed description would be helpful.

Thanks.

[RickM]

This again?
I thought the Net/Net was that if it worked it was an inconsistent 1-3 hp gain.

[Embs]

I will re-state my earlier comments concerning the EEEEEERam:

Look the Amazing Zanick is giving his sheepish customers a "bouncy" motorcycle "ride". Note the ER on the seat of the Amazing Zanicks EEEEEEram enhanced dirt bike.

Sorry but unless that thing is self powered it will not pressurize enough air to be noticeable for my 3.6L or 3.8L "air pumps".

Let the games ensue!

[johncj8989]

Oh I found my hair-in-a-can, it was right under my Ronco Hair Vacuum and Styling Kit the whole dang time.....silly me.

[RickM]

Does Lenz Performance have a Lenz-RAM?

[zanick2]

yes, we are going to do the tests as we have done in the past. But, we are adding a few runs as well doing some slightly different configuations.

WE will first, show up and run a fairly stock 928 with only headers , and get a baseline run out of 3 back to back runs ( 1-2 min max rest). Then, we will quickly (within 5 min) install the eRAM and run 2-3 more runs. generally, these runs are usually lower in HP, but we have always seen gains compared to the baselines. Then , we will remove them and do a couple more to match the baselines.

We will also then do some other interesting tests as i mentioned in my last post.

If you think of other things we can do in the time on the dyno, we would be willing to consider some other tests.

WE also will be monitoring voltage to the eRAM, and possibly getting a speed readout from the fan opically.

MK

QUOTE]Originally posted by petevb
Zanick-

I was wondering if you could publish to the group the way you intend to conduct the back to back test? That is- do you plan to take a stock, unmodified vehicle, dyno it, then install the E-ram and then dyno it that way? Or will the E-ram already be installed on the vehicle for the runs without it? A detailed description would be helpful.

Thanks. [/QUOTE]

[zanick2]

EBS, you make a statement, but have no facts or math to back it up. what do you mean by "self powered" If we saw 10hp at the rear wheels on a 3.2 liter porsche , with about 7ft lbs of torque increase from the moment we turned it on to redline, I think your 3.6 would have no problem seeing some gains. However, if you are pumping out more than 300hp flywheel, then you maybe right. the mass flow limit of the eRAM seems to be around 300flywheel hp. below that , we see consistant gains.

nice pic. how old are you?

Keep it clean kid!!

(actually, that is a great pic! funny!)


MK

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Embs
[B]I will re-state my earlier comments concerning the EEEEEERam:

Look the Amazing Zanick is giving his sheepish customers a "bouncy" motorcycle "ride". Note the ER on the seat of the Amazing Zanicks EEEEEEram enhanced dirt bike.

Sorry but unless that thing is self powered it will not pressurize enough air to be noticeable for my 3.6L or 3.8L "air pumps".

Let the games ensue!

[zanick2]

Thanks Wayne,

yes, its very simular to turbos and belt driven superchargers, albeit the eRAM is only playing in the 1psi range, or 5% gain area.

when we are racing on a road course, for which this device was developed, we realized that you are only full throttle for less than 15 seconds at a time , on most all tracks. (there are some that are more, and some that are less) At laguna seca, we saw less than 50 seconds of full throttle from our telemetry system for a 1:40.xx lap. all the other times are braking and coming off turns.

10hp for $300 was probably the cheapest HP we have put on the car, and we have done it all.
headers,
exhaust
cams
intake
throttle body
fuel regs
larger displacement
bigger valves, increased compression
etc etc.

am i forgetting anything? anyway, if you have done any of the mods before, you know what they cost . Ask any R5 POC racer what they would pay for a solid 10hp on their 3.2 liter 911. trust me, they alll spend a lot more for a lot less!!

MK

Originally posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts
I'll echo my original statements from the threads long ago. I have no doubt that this does actually work - to some degree. It's similar physics to a Turbo or supercharger. Whether it's worth the trouble (full throttle ony for 10 seconds) at the price is another totally different question.

-Wayne

[johncj8989]

All kidding aside it does sound cool when the eRAM kicks in.

Just click here http://www.ilovewavs.com/Effects/Animals/Sheep01.wav

[RickM]

Quote: "am i forgetting anything? anyway, if you have done any of the mods before, you know what they cost . Ask any R5 POC racer what they would pay for a solid 10hp on their 3.2 liter 911."

Add a second tail pipe to your stock 3.2 muff and you're at about 10HP, if not a touch more: Cost <$20

Coming up with a smart ass, yet correct answer to your question: Priceless.

[zanick2]

I forgot about that. probably the cheapest mod for both the 928 and the 911. sure sounds better too!!

mk

Originally posted by RickM
Quote: "am i forgetting anything? anyway, if you have done any of the mods before, you know what they cost . Ask any R5 POC racer what they would pay for a solid 10hp on their 3.2 liter 911."

Add a second tail pipe to your stock 3.2 muff and you're at about 10HP, if not a touch more: Cost <$20

Coming up with a smart ass, yet correct answer to your question: Priceless.

[Adam]

Jeez, there's just no middle ground between the extremes of the believers and non-believers, is there? Anyone would think Mark's selling repackaged cool-collars!

C'mon... give him a break until the results are in at least. I'm keen to see how it works out, although on the street, in most circumstances, you'd only use full throttle for less than 5 secs.

[Embs]

Originally posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts
I'll echo my original statements from the threads long ago. I have no doubt that this does actually work - to some degree. It's similar physics to a Turbo or supercharger. Whether it's worth the trouble (full throttle ony for 10 seconds) at the price is another totally different question.

-Wayne

Wayne you are an intelligent man, I do not question it. Pelican's business growth and your credentials speak for themselves. But the volumetric efficiency of 993 Varioram engine was I believe 113% from the factory. It seems to me that the Eram would block more air than it could possibly pressurize, especially on an engine like the Varioram.

[Dantilla]

Thanks for taking the time for the dyno runs, and thanks for telling us beforehand.

If I lived closer, I would take my very skeptical self down there to see what happens.