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cowtown 12-02-2003 07:13 AM

What's with all the tip jars?
 
Now, before I am accused of just being a heartless, tight-fisted SOB, let me state that I worked in high-school and in college at my share of low wage, service-type jobs. I know that a bunch of us on this board have worked for minimum wage before and I'm just wondering what you think of this:

What's with all the tip jars at every coffee shop, bakery, and pizza place?

When I go to the Home Depot, and the guy spends 15 minutes with me, explaining in detail what I need to do to fix my leaky sink, I say "thanks" and we both walk away happy. He has given me some valuable knowledge, and it's understood that he's being paid to do that.

When I run in to the coffee shop and get a $1.65 cup of filter coffee, which takes about 10 seconds to pour, there seems to be an increasing expectation that I'll toss a quarter or something into their tip jar.

Who provided me the valuable service, the Home Depot guy, or the coffee shop guy?

Maybe I'm making too big a deal of this, but these jars are sprouting up everywhere around here. I usually don't put money in tip jars...maybe I AM a tight-fisted SOB. :eek:

:confused:

RickM 12-02-2003 07:34 AM

This erks me as well. I noticed it at a Pizza place on Saturday. The guy shovels the pie onto a plate and there's a tip jar. I sit down and a young lady brings napkins to my table.....Do I tip her too? Jeez.

Maybe I'll bring a tip jar to the CEO of my company when I present our strategic plan.

BTW, most Home Depots prohibit employees from accepting tips. I tipped one HD guy the other day though when he lugged a relatively Christmas tree over to my truck.

JavaBrewer 12-02-2003 07:40 AM

The deli in our office buiding started a tip jar about 6 months ago. I don't partake, as I don't at our local fast food Mexican eatery drive up window:rolleyes: I will tip the Barista's at Starbucks (or any coffee shop - Panikin) if I order a latte but never for a simple cup of drip.

I was a bartender for too many years and I am a consistent 20% type of guy. But enough is enough. Waiting to see a tip jar at Ralphs checkout.

BlueSkyJaunte 12-02-2003 07:41 AM

Blue's Simple Guide To Tipping Rates Whilst Dining Out:

15%+ decent service taking your order, delivering it, and bussing your table, all while you relax in your chair.

10%-15% not-that-great service taking your order, delivering it, and bussing your table, all while you relax in your chair.

5%-10% rude, inept, or careless service taking your order, delivering it, and bussing your table, all while you scowl in your chair.

0%-5% decent service bussing table / refilling glasses after you've gotten your own food (like at Sweet Tomato).

0% Everything else

-----------------------------

Note I don't go to bars so use your discretion when tipping the bartender.

RickM 12-02-2003 07:43 AM

I start at 20% and see if I'm convinced to go lower or higher.

I can't handle when one gets rude or poor service in any business and a tip is expected.

widebody911 12-02-2003 07:45 AM

Some people are always looking for a handout...

http://www.paypal.com/images/x-click-but04.gif

speeder 12-02-2003 08:13 AM

Roll diner scene from "Reservoir Dogs"......... :D

Schrup 12-02-2003 08:16 AM

What kind of service do I get Thom?

DonDavis 12-02-2003 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by speeder
Roll diner scene from "Reservoir Dogs"......... :D
When my house got broken into in Sept, the turds got all of our DVDs including one of my favorites movies,
sniff :( Reservoir Dogs.

As far as the tipping thing goes, isn't that a town in China?

But seriously, I use about the same approach as Blue.

project935 12-02-2003 08:52 AM

I only supply tip jars when their really busy and providing good service or if she's cute :D

juanbenae 12-02-2003 09:14 AM

i used to work in tahoe at a ski resort during the winter and tips helped me feed myself. i worked at a bakery that the owner stated no tip jars, we did it anyway and when she brought it up again we were going to strike.

a tip was hip back then, i earned every penny by entertaining as well as providing a service. now i tip if shes cute.

BGCarrera32 12-02-2003 10:27 AM

Classic...LOL...

http://www.mindlesscrap.com/data/coffee.mp3

island911 12-02-2003 10:35 AM

LOL, BG. . thanks.

LeeH 12-02-2003 11:50 AM

We went to a breakfast buffet at Marie Calendars' a few months ago. My wife went up to the omlette station. She came running back and started digging in her purse. "There's a tip jar up there and I don't have any money." We spent the rest of breakfast "discussing" the need to tip the omlette chef. I finally shut up to keep the peace. :mad:

BlueSkyJaunte 12-02-2003 12:01 PM

Geez, even I can make omelettes.

Maybe I should start demanding tips from my coworkers when they come to my cube and ask me questions. :rolleyes:

tabs 12-02-2003 12:24 PM

Hmmm Should I tip myself then when I use my Espresso machine in the mornining?

I have been through various fazes of my life, now it's about 12%. If she is especially friendly and GREAT LOOKING..then anything she wants she gets...Jewelery,Furs, Cars, Boats, Hoooouseees.....the check boooookkkk....ahhhh there I draw the line...NO ONE GETS THE CHECK BOOK.

Ohhhh...we were talking about Waiters and Waitresses not Wives.....

Overpaid Slacker 12-02-2003 01:11 PM

"Learn to farking type".

I start at 20% as well (for foodservice), but it's much easier to convince me to drop that figure than it is to raise it. And if it's really screwed up, I've got no qualms w/ no tip. I get no psychological warm n' fuzzy from leaving a tip.

Bartenders -- always 20%, even if they suck. As a former drinkslinger, it made a difference to me when I was well tipped, and good tippers got much better/faster attention -- w/ more buybacks. It's also the closest relationship to the person that actually made what you ordered, in addition to taking your order and cleaning up after you.

As for coffee drones or dry cleaners (I couldn't believe it when I saw that one), no. I confess I throw a buck into the bathroom attendant's basket at the clubs. (He's usually got good drugs).

JP

dd74 12-02-2003 01:15 PM

I just returned from the land of "the tip": New York. In a week, I went through $300 in tips alone. You know the story: a cab here, a doorman there, the porter, the baker and candlestick maker.. I'm telling you, it starts to add up.

I never tip at Starbucks. I mean, enough is enough. The damn espresso machines are automatic now. All a barrista (by the way, how can a guy working at Starbucks allow himself to be called "barrista?" -- I guess it depends on the guy, eh?) has to do is steam and stir milk.

In Hawaii, porters drive Lexus Sedans paid for by tips.

If I got a buck for every post I've made on this board, I wouldn't be hounding you guys about 20/21 cams. They'd already be inside the engine. :mad:

RickM 12-02-2003 01:43 PM

Good point on the bartenders. Mine always gets >20%....payback are comp drinks which far surpass the tip cost.

JavaBrewer 12-02-2003 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RickM
Good point on the bartenders. Mine always gets >20%....payback are comp drinks which far surpass the tip cost.
Depends on the house of course. A good tip should ensure prompt and preferential treatment - like no waiting when the line is 3 deep from the bar. Being generous to the bartender will indeed pay dividends over the long haul.

Overpaid Slacker 12-02-2003 02:34 PM

Hey dd74 -- weren't you going to get in touch next time you came to NYC? You had a standing offer for drinks after offering to help w/ that Quattro I was interested in out in your neck of the woods. I'm on LI now, but w/ some notice, a quick trip into the City to meet a familiar-face-I've-never-seen would be no problem.

JP

dd74 12-02-2003 02:42 PM

JP - it was all business this time. We had meeting after meeting after meeting. Only once was I able to get downtime, at that was to see some old friends in Katona.

Around spring we're going back, so I'll look you up then. I'm always up for a double-strong martini and a very rare steak. ;)

cegerer 12-02-2003 03:26 PM

Starbucks? :rolleyes: I buy my coffee at McDonald's drive-thru. It even comes in a designer cup now. No tip required.

widebody911 12-03-2003 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pschrup
What kind of service do I get Thom?
For $1 - not much - but thanks!

pwd72s 12-03-2003 05:07 PM

This is both funny and sad. Earl Green had a great over the twisties route planned for an R Gruppe drive after we gathered at PIR on Nov. 9th...the drive was great. We ended up at an establishment I won't name, other than to say it serves microbrew beer and great burgers. Before we ever ordered, we were informed that a "17% gratuity" was expected. This because we were a large group and they wouldn't give us seperate tickets. I asked the guy if we had to wash dishes if we could come up with only 16%. Evidently, the comment went over his head. Since the food and service were both merely okay, they got more than 20%...
Still, the way a tip was just added to the bill? Pretty tacky, IMHO...

johnco 12-03-2003 05:19 PM

something I could never understand about tipping. why does one food deserve a much higher tip then another type of food? Just because one food costs more than the other? they both come on one plate. no extra work bringing a steak to the table than bringing a hamburger.

MFAFF 12-04-2003 12:26 AM

Tipping's a strange thing.

I worked in a small coffee shop in Alexandria for a few years, great coffee, great atmosphere etc.

When I worked solo the tip jar stayed pretty empty, but when one of my female colleagues was working the tip jar filled right up?

Hmmmmm, maybe it has to do with the low cut tops and the tight pants....

True my attitiude was more direct and business-like than many, but the aim is to get good coffee, well made and at a good price..

Oh and this was before the days of the auto expresso maker, so the 'barista's' (what a stupid name) skill was important.

So much that one evening this bright boy decieed to impress the girl he was with by telling me how to 'pull' his expresso.

The regulars gather round in anticipation of a torrent of good olde world anglo -saxon abuse, but no I merely stepped aside and suggested he demonstrate his own skills to us all. He declined and walked away sheepishy.

Next morning the owner took a call, the guy was complaining about my attitude and how he had every right to demand the coffee be made exactly as he wanted. To which the priceless reply was 'Starbucks is just around the corner, please use it'.

ronin 12-04-2003 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RickM
I tipped one HD guy the other day though when he lugged a relatively Christmas tree over to my truck.
so what requirements are there for a tree to be considered relatively Christmas?

:D

RickM 12-04-2003 05:37 AM

Heh heh...I think I can type fast.

...relatively heavy Christmas tree......

ronin 12-04-2003 09:14 AM

I knew what you meant. I just love picking on people :D


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