Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
nostatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Posts: 30,318
Garage
Robert Novak: a douche bag for liberty

so on crossfire, Novak actually suggested that Clark "has a problem with the african-american woman Rice."

As Jon Stewart said, "gee, I didn't even know this deck had a race card."

Say what you want about Clark, Novak is a jackass...

Old 03-29-2004, 09:13 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Tucson AZ USA
Posts: 8,228
Actually, (I mentioned this on another post), Ann Coltier,on "The Scarborough Report") said that Clarke was digruntled because the "job he wanted was given to a woman; a black woman at that."

Chalk up one for the Republicans.

I have noticed that CNN, FAX, and CNBC all seem to be taking the same side in this fracas. I find that very interesting for an industry that tries to convince the public that it is fair and impartial. Just what we need: Don't fix the problem, just find out who we can blame for what.
__________________
Bob S. former owner of a 1984 silver 944
Old 03-29-2004, 09:59 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Team California
 
speeder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: los angeles, CA.
Posts: 41,202
Garage
I'm waiting for the video that prooves that Coultier is a man and Novak a woman.

As for Rice, I've always said that I have to hand it to the GOP, it can't be easy to find a black woman who is politically to the right of Atilla the Hun.

And who couldn't love her?
__________________
Denis

Statement from Tylenol: "Nice try. Release the Epstein files."
Old 03-30-2004, 01:28 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Super Jenius
 
Overpaid Slacker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Syracuse, NY
Posts: 3,491
Send a message via AIM to Overpaid Slacker
Never been a fan of Novak. I find Ann Coulter funny, and she's not a lot more acidic than many Lefty commentators (not that that excuses asininity from her or the other side). Still, I'd try to pick her up if I saw her in a bar...

Condi is the best; we're lucky to have her as NSA. Tho' half the time I see her I think Zula (Grace Jones) in Conan the Destroyer.

JP
__________________
2003 SuperCharged Frontier ../.. 1979 930 ../.. 1989 BMW 325iX ../.. 1988 BMW M5 ../.. 1973 BMW 2002 ../..1969 Alfa Boattail Spyder ../.. 1961 Morris Mini Cooper ../..2002 Aprilia RSV Mille ../.. 1985 Moto Guzzi LMIII cafe ../.. 2005 Kawasaki Brute Force 750
Old 03-30-2004, 05:35 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
She's not looking happy here either....She will testify after all.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4623066
__________________
Warren & Ron, may you rest in Peace.
Old 03-30-2004, 07:03 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
drag racing the short bus
 
dd74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Location, Location...
Posts: 21,983
Give Novak some credit: he did break the story on someone in Bush's cabinet ratting out that CIA operative. That was a huge story.
__________________
The Terror of Tiny Town
Old 03-30-2004, 10:22 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Nearby
Posts: 79,768
Garage
Send a message via AIM to fintstone
I think Novak had a bit of a point....he implied everyone else was incompetent...but the one black woman was stupid? If the tables were turned and she was a Demoncrat...the point most certainly would have been made.

The press will only post bad pictures of Rice...just like GW, Cheney, etc. Condi Rice has already testified privately for 4 hours and offered more....she appropriately was not testifying publicly...per constitutional precedent.....unfortunately, the press and opposition politicians have convinced the ignorant public that the constitution is not relevant. She is twice the man Clarke is and will kick his ass in the hearings. He will be shown as even more of a liar and weasel than he has already.
__________________
74 Targa 3.0, 89 Carrera, 04 Cayenne Turbo
http://www.pelicanparts.com/gallery/fintstone/
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money"
Some are born free. Some have freedom thrust upon them. Others simply surrender
Old 03-30-2004, 10:46 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Team California
 
speeder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: los angeles, CA.
Posts: 41,202
Garage
Quote:
Originally posted by fintstone
The press will only post bad pictures of Rice...just like GW, Cheney, etc. Condi Rice has already testified privately for 4 hours and offered more....she appropriately was not testifying publicly...per constitutional precedent.....unfortunately, the press and opposition politicians have convinced the ignorant public that the constitution is not relevant. She is twice the man Clarke is and will kick his ass in the hearings. He will be shown as even more of a liar and weasel than he has already.
I gave you a lot more credit before this....., Only bad pictures of Bush or Cheney? Are you out of your mind?? Cheney looks exactly the same in every picture I've ever seen, and Bush pictures are flattering more than not. He's a handsome guy until that little smirk reveals his true personality. Rice is not an ugly woman at all, but she has an unfortunate furrowed brow thing that makes it look like she is attempting to put a hex on reporters.

And constitution and precedent are two different things, spin-meister, the precedent is for NSAs to testify under oath in extraordinary circumstances such as this, ie. Brezniesky(sp?), Abrams, etc..
__________________
Denis

Statement from Tylenol: "Nice try. Release the Epstein files."
Old 03-30-2004, 11:03 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
drag racing the short bus
 
dd74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Location, Location...
Posts: 21,983
Fact is this, 9/11, al Qaeda and Iraq are incredibly huge issues. The majority of the public believes, whether that belief has been instigated by the press or not, that discrepencies, if not out-and-out lying by the Bush Administration has gone on with all three.

Whether or not Rice has any priviledge whatsoever to NOT TESTIFY, Bush will take such a tremendous political hit if she does not testify, he may very likely lose reelection, and go down in history as a one-term loser just like his father.

Personally, I don't see what she can offer to the testimony. Nevertheless, the American public wants to hear her voice.
__________________
The Terror of Tiny Town
Old 03-30-2004, 11:12 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Nearby
Posts: 79,768
Garage
Send a message via AIM to fintstone
Quote:
I gave you a lot more credit before this....., Only bad pictures of Bush or Cheney? Are you out of your mind??
Quote:
Rice is not an ugly woman at all, but she has an unfortunate furrowed brow thing that makes it look like she is attempting to put a hex on reporters.

Then why not use this picture? I have seen a lot of her...and she most often looks likes this...
__________________
74 Targa 3.0, 89 Carrera, 04 Cayenne Turbo
http://www.pelicanparts.com/gallery/fintstone/
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money"
Some are born free. Some have freedom thrust upon them. Others simply surrender
Old 03-30-2004, 11:33 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
drag racing the short bus
 
dd74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Location, Location...
Posts: 21,983


Devil in a blue dress? Well, look at it this way: she's a Phd, she's a concert pianist, she's in incredible shape, and she's far more powerful than any of us. She can probably cook, too.

And not bad looking,...even for a modern-day Eva Braun.

Sure, I'd stoop to her...just like the rest of the world.

__________________
The Terror of Tiny Town
Old 03-30-2004, 01:15 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
nostatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Posts: 30,318
Garage
Quote:
Originally posted by fintstone
I think Novak had a bit of a point....he implied everyone else was incompetent...
no, that isn't what he implied at all. He implied that Clark is a racist/mysogynist, and that's why he's making all this noise.

Novak's only point was that he was looking to use inflamatory inuendo to get a rise out of a guest on the show. Geraldoesque at its best (worst).

Honestly, I don't know how these "journalists" can look in the mirror or sleep at night.
Old 03-30-2004, 01:53 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Nearby
Posts: 79,768
Garage
Send a message via AIM to fintstone
dd74
I agree...she is much maligned..and not one you would want for an enemy.......but certainly well educated, intelligent and talented. Doesn't talk too much and actually thinks before speaking. Best of all, her favorite car is a '74 Porsche.
__________________
74 Targa 3.0, 89 Carrera, 04 Cayenne Turbo
http://www.pelicanparts.com/gallery/fintstone/
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money"
Some are born free. Some have freedom thrust upon them. Others simply surrender
Old 03-30-2004, 01:57 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Nearby
Posts: 79,768
Garage
Send a message via AIM to fintstone
Quote:
I think Novak had a bit of a point....he implied everyone else was incompetent...but the one black woman was stupid?
Quote:
no, that isn't what he implied at all. He implied that Clark is a racist/mysogynist, and that's why he's making all this noise

Nostatic
I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I was not referring to Novak, but Clarke implying that everyone else (the president and his advisors)were incompetent and Rice was stupid.
__________________
74 Targa 3.0, 89 Carrera, 04 Cayenne Turbo
http://www.pelicanparts.com/gallery/fintstone/
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money"
Some are born free. Some have freedom thrust upon them. Others simply surrender
Old 03-30-2004, 02:05 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Nearby
Posts: 79,768
Garage
Send a message via AIM to fintstone
As you know, while Clarke was the "terrorism czar" under Clinton..al-Qaida bombed U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania as well as the USS Cole (Great job Dick!).
Then Mr Clarke's book has the audacity to claim Dr. Rice's "facial expression indicated she had never heard of al-Qaida" in 2000 (What a dumbass). Odd to assume that of the national Security Advisor... especially since Dr. Rice had worked for the the first Bush Whitehouse on security issues..been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, and a senior fellow of the Institute for International Studies. a professor of political science at Stanford and had written several books and articles on foreign policy. Guess the import of title "Dr" Rice eluded Clarke.
I personally like the Coulter comment " Did Clarke think Dr. Rice was cleaning the Old Executive Office Building at night before the president chose her -- not him -- to be national security adviser?"
__________________
74 Targa 3.0, 89 Carrera, 04 Cayenne Turbo
http://www.pelicanparts.com/gallery/fintstone/
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money"
Some are born free. Some have freedom thrust upon them. Others simply surrender

Last edited by fintstone; 03-30-2004 at 02:55 PM..
Old 03-30-2004, 02:53 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
drag racing the short bus
 
dd74's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Location, Location...
Posts: 21,983
Quote:
Originally posted by fintstone

I personally like the Coulter comment " Did Clarke think Dr. Rice was cleaning the Old Executive Office Building at night before the president chose her -- not him -- to be national security adviser?"
And Novak's quote was bad?
__________________
The Terror of Tiny Town
Old 03-30-2004, 03:30 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered
 
350HP930's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Posts: 3,814
Quote:
Originally posted by fintstone
As you know, while Clarke was the "terrorism czar" under Clinton..al-Qaida bombed U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania as well as the USS Cole (Great job Dick!).
Yup, and all of those events occured in other countries where the US does not have a lot of intelligence or control over what was going on.

Even the CIA is admitting that its intelligence networks are pretty blind in a lot of places like the middle east and africa.

Unless you think that clarke is psychic or has superman powers what do you think he could have done in those cases besides keeping the focus on the threat of al-qaeda?
Old 03-30-2004, 03:55 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Team California
 
speeder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: los angeles, CA.
Posts: 41,202
Garage
Quote:
Originally posted by Overpaid Slacker
Never been a fan of Novak. I find Ann Coulter funny, and she's not a lot more acidic than many Lefty commentators (not that that excuses asininity from her or the other side). Still, I'd try to pick her up if I saw her in a bar...
JP
Stay away from Santa Monica Blvd. in L.A., dude. Your "tranny filter" might malfunction.
__________________
Denis

Statement from Tylenol: "Nice try. Release the Epstein files."
Old 03-30-2004, 04:12 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Nearby
Posts: 79,768
Garage
Send a message via AIM to fintstone
Quote:
Yup, and all of those events occured in other countries where the US does not have a lot of intelligence or control over what was going on.
Quote:
Unless you think that clarke is psychic or has superman powers what do you think he could have done in those cases besides keeping the focus on the threat of al-qaeda?
I think he and the previous administration did exactly as you suggest....nothing..even after al-qaida attacked the Cole, a US military ship (an act of war which was enough to get us into both WW1 and WW2). Just how long did it take our current president to react after an attack on his watch.......We were kicking al-qaida ass and the folks that sheltered them in days.
__________________
74 Targa 3.0, 89 Carrera, 04 Cayenne Turbo
http://www.pelicanparts.com/gallery/fintstone/
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money"
Some are born free. Some have freedom thrust upon them. Others simply surrender
Old 03-30-2004, 04:13 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Nearby
Posts: 79,768
Garage
Send a message via AIM to fintstone
Quote:
Stay away from Santa Monica Blvd. in L.A., dude. Your "tranny filter" might malfunction.
Please explain? Is this an inside joke? Thanks!

__________________
74 Targa 3.0, 89 Carrera, 04 Cayenne Turbo
http://www.pelicanparts.com/gallery/fintstone/
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money"
Some are born free. Some have freedom thrust upon them. Others simply surrender
Old 03-30-2004, 04:17 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:04 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.