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Gun Safety Instructor Shoots Self
I wonder if he let out a Homeric "Dohhh!!"
 http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/05/01/dea.shooting.ap/index.html
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By removing the magazine from the gun and two pulling back the slide, the bullet in the chamber should have ejected. Further when the slide returned to the firing position the gun should not have discharged unless the trigger was pulled and/or the safety was disengaged (safetys vary from gun to gun). It could well have been a mechanical failure in the gun? One the bullet stuck in the chamber and two the firing pin was released as the slide went forward...two things that should not have happened?
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05-02-2004, 12:32 PM
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The dummy should have seen that the bullet didn't eject, or he didn't realize he had one in the pipe so to speak. Maybe with all those people he was not paying attention to business.
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After removing the clip on your weapon cycle the bolt at least 3 times this will make sure that the chamber is empty. Was that a Glock or a SW? Here the thread from www.officer.com
http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22570 Last edited by SteveStromberg; 05-02-2004 at 01:02 PM.. |
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05-02-2004, 12:58 PM
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He violated the first critical rule of gun safety.
TREAT ALL GUNS AS IF THEY ARE LOADED, EVEN WHEN YOU THINK THEY ARE NOT. |
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05-02-2004, 03:02 PM
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And this guy is a Federal agent? You'd think he would have been extra cautious with a room full of kids.
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How would Donald Trump have handled the situation?
"You're Fired!" |
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05-02-2004, 06:59 PM
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Reminds me of a certain RCMP (Mountie) Sargeant that I took hunter training from years ago. He was as religious about gun safety as he was about the right to "bear arms". I have never met a man sooo anal about the safe handling of firearms.
He did the same thing to himself - except even more of a challenge - he shot himself in the leg with a long gun somehow. At least he had the courtesy to do it in the privacy of his hotel room during an overnight on a school-to-school "lecture tour" on safe gun handling. Setting irony aside - it seems these kinds of incidents only reinforce the unavoidable risks associated with firearms. |
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Its not that difficult to safely check if a pistol is loaded or not. This guy should be charged with reckless endangerment. Last edited by Shuie; 05-03-2004 at 08:06 AM.. |
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About a year ago, my then 14 year old son and I were out at a range shooting skeet and he had a single shot 410, He put a shell in closed the gun and it discharged and blew a hole in the fence in front of him. I thought he had pulled the trigger, so I put another shell in, closed the gun and it fired again. Turns out the firing pin broke and jammed in the firing position. He then understood why always point down range, not at your foot on any other part of your or someone else's body.
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one el paso SWAT officer coming back from a call was playing "cops and robbers" with a fellow officer, and squeezed off two rounds into his buddies bulletproof vest. he didnt even get fired! they brushed it under the carpet calling it an "Accidental discharge" second incident. SWAT guys going after a badguy, two dudes decide to climb a fence, dude one climbs on top, dude two hands up a loaded benelli shotgun, barrel first, finger on trigger. boom, the shot went past dude ones head. "accidental discharge" my bro is a swat guy, i get nervous for him, what a bunch of effen idiots.
btw, i heard these two stories on a deer hunting trip with my bro and two of his SWAT buddies. let me tell you, i wanted to check their rifles every night.
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Hugh pretty much covered it. Rule #1 of gun safety is, "There is no such thing as an unloaded gun, when it comes to pointing one at people". Or more correctly, "Treat all guns as if they have one in the chamber and a flaky firing pin".
And why not? 999 times out of 1000 they work as they are supposed to, (at least), but there is NO REASON to point a gun at someone, (or yourself), unless you are ready to shoot them. Aside from everything else, it's just the height of bad manners and stupidity! Whenever some dip***** points an "unloaded" gun at me, even for an instant, I want to knock them into next week.  Try to imagine the reason why this guy was pointing it at his leg; to catch the bullet that might come out so as not to damage the floor? 
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