lowyder993, Thanks I've always posted on the" quick reply."
Zeke,your right it's ignorance,please try to bear with me and my posts . thanks Randy

Randy;

Every time I am in Oz or on your Island, I am always reminded of my accent (Yank) and my funny mannerisms. Not as a chide or a put down, but with a smile.

We do the same for you guys here as well. Don't ever worry about your grammatical language here on the board.

I figure it has to with you always being upside down on our maps.

Michael.

their there zeke. . .dont u fret, four you dont sound pedantic, but rather pathetic. perhaps people post purposely poised precarious punctuation purported purposely to piss-off the pedantic-paranoid.

Geeze-man . . .know-won is getting paid for there post hear. [sic] let it go.

I'll make you a deal; you back-off the "charitable" gramatical criticism, and I'll back-off on my "charitable" comments about mental-conditions. :rolleyes:

nice island. had you gone to my skool you would have been the valid-victorian.

LOL "valid-victorian". ..thanks k911sc . ..I'm putting that under my avitar.

Now Listen UP
 

This is the definative post on this thread. I can't spell, punctuate or correctly use grammer. I could make a joke and say it's because I have bin done educated in CA. I can look a word up and five minutes later have to look it up again. With the other two I am just lazy. Also many times I purposefully use the venicular form of the language to convey an idea. That said I will move on to the education system.

I have to agree with the Z man for the most part. Parents don't spend enough time with the children, use schools as babysitters etc. I think most parents believe that the school system is educating their kids...as in Johnny did you do all your homework, Yeah Ma. What they don't question is how much homework Johnny is getting to do at home. Is it 1/2 an hours worth or 3 hours worth (assuming quality work is involved).

Now here is what the discussion has FAILED to address. The role the administration plays in the educational systems failure. I believe that after 5 years or so Teachers just get butrned out on having to fight both the parent and the administraion.

The State Administration in all it's wisedom sets certain parameters on how and what you teach childeren. Then you have the districts and the money issue. They get so much money for attendence. They put pressure on the teachers to pass children along so that their statistics look good. The teachers have to be PC so parents don't complain to the administration, and not to appear to be a trouble maker in the district if they complain about the system. AND how many secratarys does a district really need?

Has anybody ever looked at the cr@p that they pass off in school textbooks? It sure doesn't seem like the history I remember.

I listened to two HS Math teachers talking ove lunch. They basically said that 90% of the kids in their Algebra 1 class were failing. That they basically had been passed on year after year without learning the basics. That it was going to hit the fan in a year or two when none of these kids are going to be able, not only to pass a required HS course, but pass the HS proficiency exam. That basically the administration was deaf dumb and blind to the problem. Now thats just an isolated example but I think it illustrates the point.

BTW: My next door neighbor in CA was a HS Counsler...He never left the offices except for lunch or a meeting. During the year he had to administer the HS proficiency exams...and he complained about how much work (how tiring) it was dealing with all those kids at once.

I fat finger stuff all the time here. Sorry everyone. I guess Im too used to a compiler spitting the typos back at me.

Hey Tabs, youre right about the school textbooks, I look through my kids books all the time. Nothing like i remember from school. It drives me crazy. Kids today arent taught American history anymore, now its "World Culture" all P.C. crap. It makes the U.S. look like the bad guys. The more I hear from my wife about her school board and the policies of the current education system, it makes me more and more, a proponent of home schooling.

I agrie towtally...

We are sold on the idea of homeschooling. In no way, shape or form are our children going to attend government schools where more time is spent on teaching 8 year olds how to put on a condom, to masturbate, that it is okay that Jimmy has two daddy's and that the USA is a bunch of slave owning, world dominating, unfair criminals. Enough of the PC BS. It makes me sick.

Did you hear that a homeschooled child just won the national geography bee? Got a $25,000 scholarship to college.

what dose pedantic meen?

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ya know,

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wikced to da notJustPorsche homies

z-man you rock
tabs, you is da snizzle

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bioyeee I'm outta here

Jaye !

Oh Yes.

Don't forget, don't believe in stereotypes.
Don't belive the hype.
Don't believe the media.

Were all God's children
and the person standing next to you on the street is your brother !

take care

Ade

Home schooling is very nice when it's done right. It takes a lot of time that most parents do not have, and it robs the child of some socialization that peers are getting in schools, but done correctly the child gets a very good education.

Sadly, according to reports from teachers, the typical homeschooled child is one whose parents don't give a poop, and who has figured out a way to legally not attend school.

So let's get the propaganda out of our schools. Instead, let's teach them that democracy is the only reasonable form of government, that capitalism is the most enlightened economic system and that exporting these ideas to countries that don't want them is a moral imperative, that the rest of the world just does not yet understand.

Ahhh...you can lead a horse to water but.....

Disagree. Every homeschooled child I know (and that is quite a few) are very socialized. They spend their time with other children often as well as adults and it shows in their mannerisms, speech and conduct which are all advanced for their ages.

Anyway, the last thing I want is my kid to be socialized by nightmarish kids who cuss, are disrespectful, want to wear sex bracelets at age 12, do drugs, hate America etc.

I care so much that I don't want my kid in a government school. Period. If I didn't care, that is exactly where I would send them. My wife and I are both educated and she is staying home instead of working to teach. I will teach additional subjects which means more work for me. Too bad for me...I guess I can't waste time watching American Idol or some other useless show. I woudn't have it any other way.

My wife was a 6th grade lang art teacher. She decided (and I fully support) to stay home with our 14 month old son. We both limit the amount of time a TV is on while he is awake.

The stories that my told me while she was teaching made me cringe. Her first two years where spent with below grade level students who could care less if they learned a single thing. She worked an insane amount of hours trying to get through to these students and at the end of the year of the 90 students she had she could only pass ~ 50 people. The principle of the school came to her and told her which 4 do you really want to fail. So of the 45 people that failed only 4 would be held back.

These student (remember 6th graders) threatened to kill my wife, called her racist ect on a regular basis. She had desks thrown at her when she told certain student to go to the office.

When parents where contacted they never showed as it wasn't their problem.

After two years she was teaching the gifted students and the parents where very supportive. Her class size dropped to 60 to 70 students and of those maybe 10 to 12 would fail every year. My wife would never curve a grade but she was always willing to work to help her students.

Was not uncommon for my wife to work from 7:30 am to 7 or 8 at night.

She will probably never go back to teaching and she will never let our son go to school in the district she taught in.

The Parents play a huge role in their children's education. If they care about learning so will the child. If the parent doesn't take the time to involved with their child's education, why should the child even care.

Some will most won't.

No deal. I am pathectic. I'm crippled by owning a critical mind. I don't see past things.

The world around me (Long Beach CA) has deteriorated to the extent that I have withdrawn. I'm way past irony, it's too clever for Long Beach. I get real estate flyers thrown on the porch daily with awful composition. Like I'm going to hand over 30K to sell my house to someone that can't write a decent sentence?

It's rampant. Let's improve. I'm not the first to post this thesis.

Hat's off to those of you that know the difference and want to see that your children have that advantage. Next question: Do you teach them manners as well? I haven't encountered anyone with impecable manners in months. Is that a dying art or a dying breed?

SRISER said: "Anyway, the last thing I want is my kid to be socialized by nightmarish kids who cuss, are disrespectful, want to wear sex bracelets at age 12, do drugs, hate America etc."

Is there something wrong with this behavior? Very intolerant and judgmental of you, not to mention elitist to remove your kids from this environment. . .