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RickM 06-29-2004 12:13 PM

Does such a tool/device exist?
 
Here's what I want to accomplish: On a portion of my property I have a relatively wooded area with many small, yet fast growing, Sumac (read weed) trees. I'd like to get my truck back there and rip these puppies out of the ground by their roots. Is there a device that I can attach to the end of a chain and quickly place on the base of the small tree to pull out. I'm thinking it would have gripping claws (like pliers/vice grips???) that would clamp tighter as the pulling pressure increases. It would work similarly to ice tongs but with more gripping surface.

Does this exist or am I hallucinating?

BGCarrera32 06-29-2004 12:19 PM

Here ya go, Cat C-9:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1088540256.jpg

You could always have what you want done quoted by an excavator or landscaper, then ask how they would do it...odds are if there is a lot of it they will whack off what they need to and the bobcat then rest...you might be able to just get under neath the junk and plow forward.

Yankee911 06-29-2004 12:28 PM

Send my your mailing address and I'll get you some C4 and Det cord. Works like a charm.

vash 06-29-2004 12:36 PM

look up "roundslings" on the internet. it is basically a badass tow strap that crane guys use for rigging. just how big are these trees? remember, you want to use physics in your favor, so a long strap with a bunch of those tuff shackles would be a better bet. that way you can hook the strap up higher on the tree. and yank, using leverage to overturn the bastards. dont forget, the tree gets stronger at the bottom when it comes to overturning. a small bush can resist a 4x4 pretty well, trust me, i did some hmmm..."landscaping" in the front with my pickup, it was hell on my tranny. i only wish the bushes were tall enough to rig up higher.

RickM 06-29-2004 12:50 PM

The trees are not that big (3" diameter) and the have pretty shallow roots. Just a pain in th A$$ to dig 20 or so up. If I rig up high it will snap the tree as they are pretty weak.

91C2wrencher 06-29-2004 12:55 PM

Dude i've similar in the past with my 302 V-8 Jeep CJ7, used a long length of heavy i mean heavy chain, wrapped it around the base of tree/bush and attached the one end around to itself and the other looped around the frame/bumper of the jeep. like popp'in zits! bam out go the trees. Did it in reverse mainly for the visual advantage and well, the rear bumper/frame was probabley not up for the job. just remember to use good chain etiquet(sp?) real manly stuff have fun!

edit, also helps on bigger stuff to dig out behind the root base so the chain can cinch around the roots and kinda rip'em out. very cool fun

Rot 911 06-29-2004 12:58 PM

Just don't use nylon rope to pull the trees out. Nylon rope stretches. Think slingshot. I'll tell you the story sometime.:D

RickM 06-29-2004 01:04 PM

No snatch straps for me. I'll use commercial chain from a buddie's International flatbed. Because of the size I didn't think chain would get a good enough bite and would slip.

911ctS 06-29-2004 01:05 PM

Possibly get a rental truck too.:)

lendaddy 06-29-2004 01:06 PM

Yep a good chain will bite plenty. Just give it several wraps and let her eat. Be safe though!

RickM 06-29-2004 01:08 PM

Regarding the device: don't loggers use use something similar to what I describe? I have no idea what the thing could be called.

...and I'll be careful.

RickM 06-29-2004 01:18 PM

Maybe something like this.......????

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&langId=-1&catalogId=4006970&PHOTOS=on&productId=334731&cat egoryId=76438

vash 06-29-2004 01:22 PM

no way on the chain. not enough give, which is too hard on the drivetrain. granted chains are tough to break, but when they do, they can send some projectiles out far and fast. i know that too. roundslings are rated in tons. not much stretch but just a tiny bit depending on the strength rating. any strap that the 4x4 crowd would use to rescue a stuck vehicle would work too.

do these trees grow back if you cut them down? does the root ball need to come out? if not, get an echo chainsaw and have a ball.
(just thought this through, if the trees are small, and they are, a chain would work great!)

RickM 06-29-2004 01:40 PM

Cliff, They are small enough for a chain. I could bite the bullet and dig these things up but Damn-it I'm gonna use my Explorer for something more than groceries and an occasionl tow. :D

BTW, these pest/weed trees grow 3-4 feet a year. Cutting them with a chain saw just teases these flora-rodents.

turbo6bar 06-29-2004 01:44 PM

My choice would be a 4WD tractor and boom pole.

The only advantage to a truck is the momentum you carry, since you're severely traction limited. With a boom pole, you're lifting the tree, which pulls your rear tires into the ground, building crazy stupid traction.

How big are these trees anyway? Jürgen

vash 06-29-2004 02:20 PM

one word: fire

juanbenae 06-29-2004 02:33 PM

i think the tension sort of conection you describe is a unit you use with steel cable. i think its crimped, or set into one end of the cable, then you wrap it around your target and set it in the "jaws" if you will. then as you put tension on the long end it tightens like a noose. i do not recall a manufacture or name though, sorry.

you'd also be amazed at how well a tow strap will cinch up. i see guys hang/install/set street light and signals poles all the time with just a strap and a boom truck. i dont see a tree stock being slicker than a painted or galvanized pole. hehehe,,, i said pole

bbq_duck 06-29-2004 02:59 PM

hehe burn hehe burn hehe

North Coast Cab 06-29-2004 04:39 PM

My friend tied a piece of chain to his truck and around a small 1 1/2-2" tree. He left a little slack to give it a good tug. When the chain ran striaght the truck stopped on a dime, his chin hit the steering wheel and his front teeth fell out. Think the whole project out.

John

TimT 06-29-2004 05:18 PM

I use a 1/2" eye/eye cable sling... I either run one end of the cable through one of the eyes, or just use a shackle... the more you pull, the tighter it gets on the tree/shrub/bush etc...

use a 10-15 foot toe rope or chain, and have the sling attached on the end...

I also know about " the slingshot" effect... wasnt pretty....


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