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Mulholland 07-06-2004 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by gotsoul59
There are more folks singing about freedom in this country and praying at the same time for censorship.
You mean like ultra-left wing Tom Harkin, friend of communists everywhere, attempting to get Rush Limbaugh (one single hour) censored from Armed Services Radio?...Ya, Tommy boy doesn't want anyone pumping up our boys overseas, because he wants them demoralized with wall to wall left wing bias.

bigrubberjeep 07-06-2004 01:37 PM

But should we need to use troops, for the sake of future generations of Americans, American troops will act in the honorable traditions of our military and in the highest moral traditions of our country. "


- G..W. Bush, Nashville, TN, Feb. 10, 2003

JavaBrewer 07-06-2004 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by bigrubberjeep
Did you know? 13,000 Colombians are killed by Guerilla groups every year - If you add that times 2 dacades, thats 260,000 almost as many Killed under Saddam's regime

Why no focus here? Lack of oil maybe? What happened to the war on Drugs?

Maybe France could step in and help them out...:rolleyes:

The U.S. Marine corps rolls into Columbia and/or Africa, all on our dime, and suddenly Europe and the whining U.S. liberal contingent complains we're having our way with the 3rd world again.

Mulholland 07-06-2004 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by bigrubberjeep
Did you know? 13,000 Colombians are killed by Guerilla groups every year - If you add that times 2 dacades, thats 260,000 almost as many Killed under Saddam's regime

Why no focus here? Lack of oil maybe? What happened to the war on Drugs?
Why no focus?...You mean targeting Islamic terrorists and those who give aid and comfort to them is not focus?

Put on your glasses, or put the whiskey glass down...It is you, my friend, whose focus is distorted by your hate of truth and GW.

bigrubberjeep 07-06-2004 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by Mulholland
Why no focus?...You mean targeting Islamic terrorists and those who give aid and comfort to them is not focus?

Put on your glasses, or put the whiskey glass down...It is you, my friend, whose focus is distorted by your hate of truth and GW.

How many Americans are killed by drugs? In the last 2 decades?

widebody911 07-06-2004 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by fintstone
Guess it would never cross one's mind that censorship might be to ensure that no classified information might be passed during the trial that would endanger soldiers or Iraqi civilians?
Right; you wouldn't want to out any undercover agents or anything - oops, GW already did that.

Watch as more and more stuff becomes classified out of 'national secuirty' Material in the public domain is now being retroactively classified.

Links:
http://www.slapnose.com/archives/2004/05/24/retroactively_classified/

But that's OK, as long as it covers GWB's and Cheney's a$$es, right?

kach22i 07-06-2004 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Mulholland
Let's repeat this for your own clarity..."The United Nations, the U.S. State Department, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch (HRW) all estimate that Saddam Hussein's regime murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people"

USAid.gov

Supe, 350, kach...pull yer heads out...It really is unbecoming.

Not to sound cold and unfeeling, but if our national securty is not the issue, why should I care how many Iraqi's or Columbian's are being killed? I do care, but have to ask: What if anything has changed? Please read the two differnt links below form the sources Mul referenced.

http://www.hrw.org/editorials/2003/iraq071803.htm
Show Trials are Not the Solution to Saddam's Heinous Reign
By Kenneth Roth (*)
It is difficult to contemplate, after the many horrors of the last century, that a government could get away with murdering a quarter of a million people. A quarter of a million Iraqis taken from their homes, driven to remote sites, and executed. A quarter of a million Iraqis who simply “disappeared,” without even the courtesy of notice to their families, let alone a trial and judgment. An average of 10,000 people a year for the two-and-a-half decades of the dictator's rule. That unthinkable tally is Saddam Hussein's legacy.



http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGMDE140062004
Killings of civilians
More than 10,000 Iraqi civilians are thought to have been killed since 20 March 2003 as a direct result of the military intervention in Iraq, either during the war or in violent incidents during the subsequent occupation. The number is an estimate - no one in authority in Iraq is willing or able to catalogue the killings. "We don't have the capacity to track all civilian casualties", admitted US Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt in February 2004.(2) A different attitude has been shown towards non-Iraqi civilians and soldiers who have been killed.

10,000 a year.......10,000 a year............10,000 a year..........and in the USA 40,000 a year die in auto accidents, another 40,000 from gun shots, and much more from second hand smoke...life goes on.
SmileWavy

bigrubberjeep 07-06-2004 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by kach22i
Not to sound cold and unfeeling, but if our national securty is not the issue, why should I care how many Iraqi's or Columbian's are being killed? I do care, but have to ask: What if anything has changed? Please read the two differnt links below form the sources Mul referenced.


10,000 a year.......10,000 a year............10,000 a year..........and in the USA 40,000 a year die in auto accidents, another 40,000 from gun shots, and much more from second hand smoke...life goes on.
SmileWavy

Americans die from the drugs used. If you don't care about the Colombians dieing, that's ok, but at least remove the drugs all together. Less Americans and Colombians would die

350HP930 07-06-2004 02:26 PM

Hmm, 10,000 people a year?

At that rate the bush regime is proving more deadly to innocent iraqis than the saddam regime was.

So much for protecting iraqis from tyranny . . . :rolleyes:

kach22i 07-06-2004 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by bigrubberjeep
Americans die from the drugs used.
I think more die from AIDS they contract while in prison on drug charges.:eek:

Mulholland 07-06-2004 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by 350HP930
Hmm, 10,000 people a year?

At that rate the bush regime is proving more deadly to innocent iraqis than the saddam regime was.

So much for protecting iraqis from tyranny . . . :rolleyes:
Could you break down that 10,000 for me?...I want the numbers of actual civilian, noncombatant, non-human-shield deaths.

http://img15.exs.cx/img15/7306/gwb.jpg

Mulholland 07-07-2004 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by gotsoul59
No White Bread, I was talking about you--ultra-right wing Crazy Honky.
Spankee, meet gotsoul...gotsoul, meet Spankee


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