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VINMAN 07-15-2004 12:56 PM

Rude cell phone users.
 
Is it me, or did the advent of the cell phone create a whole new level of rudeness???
I think the thing that burns my ass the most, is people talking on the phone while they are at a checkout counter. Man, that irks me. :mad: Especially the ones using a head set. I just think that is so obnoxious. Not to mention the ones in the restaraunts sittin at the table yaking loudly while you are trying to enjoy your meal.
My wifes a restaurant manager, one night I was sittin at the bar waitin for her , a woman behind me at a table was on her phone, practically screaming into it . Finally after about 10 mins I turned around and told her "do us all a favor , please take your F***ing phone outside and give everyone thats trying to enjoy a nice dinner , a break " She looked at me like I had 2 heads. My wife practically hid under a table. She was like "I cant believe you just did that"!! Meanwhile a few people at tables gave a small round of applause.:D I told my wife somebody in this place had to do something. Man she was pissed at me. Was I wrong??Ok mabye I could have been a little more diplomatic about it . But Ive just about had enough of all the cell phone rudeness.

BTW, the woman In the restaurant got a free drink on the house to apologise for the customer that was " RUDE " to her.:mad: ( needless to say I was slightly P.O.d at my wife for that.)http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/witch1.gif

84porsche 07-15-2004 01:01 PM

I totally agree. Cell phones did create this. I have a cell phone as does almost everybody but when I am in a restaurant or anywhere in public I mute my phone and I wait to call someone back. It is more or less an answering machine for me. It is exceptionally rude. The worst thing is when you are driving in the car with someone and they answer their phone and start talking to someone else when you are sitting right next to them. Its ok if you are getting directions or something but not just to chat. It is one of my pet peeves. Cell phones are a convenience and they should be used as such but not at the extreme that they are. If you are a doctor or someone that needs to be found in an emergency then fine but otherwise shut the phone off.

UconnTim97 07-15-2004 02:30 PM

I think you did the right thing.. I hate when coworkers are chatting on cell phones all day.

djmcmath 07-15-2004 02:38 PM

I'll play DA: I don't mind at all of someone uses a normal level of voice on their cell phone in the restaurant, or if they can still get through the checkout line expeditiously while yammering away. If they can manage to drive and talk at the same time, good on 'em. OTOH, if they can't follow simple common sense guidelines of human courtesy, that's definitely across the line. Maybe I'm biased, because I'm always on call for my job, so I absolutely have to have my cell phone on all the time.

My personal cell phone peeve? Someone's phone goes off in a meeting, or church service, or movie, or whatever. That's pretty obnoxious in it's own right. But the expert jerk will ignore it. People sitting nearby will ask "Is that your phone ringing in your purse/coat/pocket?" and received the dumbfounded "I don't know what you're talking about" look while the phone rings "The Entertainer" over and over again. Then finally, there's a silence while the caller leaves a message, followed by an equally obnoxious "You have a new voice message" sound. Aargh.


Dan

vash 07-15-2004 02:48 PM

perfect, i would die without my cellphone, but i do realize there is a time and place for it. there is no reason whatsoever to forget manners.

Moneyguy1 07-15-2004 02:55 PM

What I cannot figure out is: Are these people so afraid of being alone or have such a poor self image that they have to continually talk?

Personally, I enjoy a bit of solitude.

RANDY P 07-15-2004 03:36 PM

Up here in WA it's like the techno - dork capital of the world so up here everyone has to be "connected" to be fashionable-

Pagers and cell phone are NOT accesories, and should not be worn as such.

I hate mine. The thought of anyone being able to reach out to me anytime bugs the crap out of me. Glad you ripped Mrs. Cellphone...

rjp

ZAMIRZ 07-15-2004 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by RANDY P

I hate mine. The thought of anyone being able to reach out to me anytime bugs the crap out of me. Glad you ripped Mrs. Cellphone...

I feel the same way Randy, as a matter of fact when I lost my phone around this time last year I just decided I wasn't going to have a cell phone for that very reason. At the time, nobody cared either way, but around spring time more than a few people started to tell me that I was being selfish going out without a phone where they couldn't reach me (pathetic, I know and told them) and this lead to my own mom buying me a cell phone and now she pays the bill. I have some female friends who have pet names for their phones or call their phones their baby, it's disgusting and funny at the same time. I have 1 friend who had an older Nextel and he riced it out by putting a strobe and blue LED lights on the back of it that blink obnoxiously when the phone is in use, one day his dad was talking to him about something and his phone went off and he totally blew his dad off and picked up the phone. His dad hesitated for a moment and then snatched the phone from his ear, threw it on the ground as hard as he could making it shatter into pieces and then stomped on it with his foot for good measure.

Also, do people not realize the amount of radiation going to their head from just babbling on the cell phone for hours on end. My father had a malignant tumor in his brain that he almost died of, so that just makes me more conscious of it I guess.

VINMAN 07-16-2004 04:48 AM

I cracks me up, when my friends or relatives get mad at me when I dont answer my phone. I tell them "I'm not like you, I dont walk around with my phone in my hand constantly". Most of the time I leave it in my car. I have it so I can call someone when I want, not for people to get a hold of me when they want. I hate having it on me. Bad enough I have to have a pager on me( my job requires it).
My dream is to invent a device that you can just point at someones cell phone and zap it! I'd probably lose my job, because I work for the countrys largest phone co. But I'm sure id make alot of $$$ of it!:D :D

RickM 07-16-2004 06:26 AM

The higher end restaraunts around here really frown at the use of cellphones in their establishment. I would have pulled the waiter or matre 'di aside and explained that I was not happy with the environment.

I too am sick of the stupidity people display when in the car, at the checkout etc with a phone stuck in their head.

djmcmath 07-16-2004 07:53 AM

Cell phone jamming is the up and coming tech, of course. Used to be a neat-o spy tool for making an area secure, now available for restaurants, movie theatres, etc. It's basically just an area-of-effect in which your cell phone gets no signal. So if you're a classy restaurant who'd like to ban cell phones, but don't want to strip-search people to keep the phones out, a cell phone jammer makes a lot of sense.

Next project: hand-held directional cellphone jammers, so you can select an individual obnoxious person and take their signal away. :)

Dan

RickM 07-16-2004 08:24 AM

Kind of sounds like the Radar Detector false alarm units they used to sell. Wanna scare the crap out of the guy next to you on the highway? Just a click away from full alarm mode.

}{arlequin 07-16-2004 09:06 AM

I know they are necessary, but I hate them anyway. Personally, I am embarrassed talking on it too loudly in public. Unless it's a "ok, i'll see you there" kind of a conversation, I have no interest in others hearing what I have to say.

They should start banning their use from most indoor facilities. Nobody would bring their boom-box into a restaurant and start playing it at the cell-phone-conversation volume, what's the difference???

Long ago (around '95 I think) I read an interesting article. It totally went against all convention at the time, but it struck me. Back then, cell phones were still considered pricey and an important status symbol. It was definitely not an essential item for 8th graders.

That article mentioned that there will come a time when NOT HAVING a cell phone will become a status symbol. It viewed the phone as a leash. Anyone, esp. your boss, will be able to reach you, anywhere, anytime. Not having a cell would mean you are well off, running your own company, completely independent, or just having a sheer luxury of never being bothered by anyone. I love this concept.

I view answering my phone as a luxury for ME, not a necessity for you to reach me. It's for my convenience, not yours. If I'm expecting to receive certain info from someone, that's different.

Plus, think of all the trouble you wouldn't have been in with women if you didn't have to answer your cell phone each time they call....

VINMAN 07-16-2004 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by djmcmath
Next project: hand-held directional cellphone jammers, so you can select an individual obnoxious person and take their signal away. :)

Dan

Thats exactly what I'm talking about!http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/schiet.gif

VINMAN 07-16-2004 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RickM
[B]The higher end restaraunts around here really frown at the use of cellphones in their establishment. I would have pulled the waiter or matre 'di aside and explained that I was not happy with the environment.

/B]
Problem was, the restaraunt manager was my wife. When I complained to her, she told me to mind my business I wasnt a customer!!:eek: :mad: Since then they have put signs up.

Moneyguy1 07-16-2004 10:35 AM

Not having one as a status symbol.

One of George Carlin's acts he refers to way back wearing an earring as a symbol of nonconformity. He gave it up later because suddenly everyone had one...or more....

When, a few years back, we were issued pagers, we did not view them as any kind of symbol but a leash. We were never free.

cowtown 07-16-2004 11:28 AM

Urinal phoners are just about the worst, in my book. I just can't believe they have the nerve to do it.

RickM 07-16-2004 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by VINMAN
Problem was, the restaraunt manager was my wife. When I complained to her, she told me to mind my business I wasnt a customer!!:eek: :mad: Since then they have put signs up.
LOL, I see. I'd be mad too.

Funny you guys mention that's it's a luxury not to have one. That's the way I feel.

Recently, I was in a pretty nice place about to have dinner with my wife. I realized I had my phone in a vest pocket. When I turned it off it made it's usual queer melody power-off tune. As I'm putting it back into my pocket a woman loudly/rudely <i>tells</i> me not to use the phone in the restaraunt. My wife explains to her what I was doing (as if the lady cared). It took a lot of restraint on my part not to verbally rip this woman's head off.

RickM 07-16-2004 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cowtown
Urinal phoners are just about the worst, in my book. I just can't believe they have the nerve to do it.
Don't want to borrow their phone. :D

RickM 07-16-2004 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moneyguy1

When, a few years back, we were issued pagers, we did not view them as any kind of symbol but a leash. We were never free.

But a few years earlier than that you were a doctor if you had one. (Or a tow truck driver, heh heh)

RANDY P 07-16-2004 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by }{arlequin

That article mentioned that there will come a time when NOT HAVING a cell phone will become a status symbol. It viewed the phone as a leash. Anyone, esp. your boss, will be able to reach you, anywhere, anytime. Not having a cell would mean you are well off, running your own company, completely independent, or just having a sheer luxury of never being bothered by anyone. I love this concept.


Amen. It means you're a working stiff. And that, is simply not good. Never understood the concept of giving yourself that much to your job? An awful way to live..

rjp

jm951 07-16-2004 12:15 PM

Well, I have to have one for my job, but there is a point where common courtesy has to be observed. When in a restaurant with a client, or anywhere else where a public conversation or ringing could be considered intrusive and rude, I set it to mute and use it as a silent mobile answering machine. I just wish that others could observe the same protocol and set the piece of crap to either vibrate or totaly mute. It is very rare that anything requires that quick of an answer.

rcm 07-16-2004 12:23 PM

Here in NH, I have been is several resturants that do not allow cell phones to be used at all. I like it. I really think it becomes some show of self importants.

}{arlequin 07-16-2004 12:26 PM

My uncle has one from the office for his job as well. As soon as he leaves, he throws it in the briefcase and the briefcase goes in the trunk. LOL I don't think he even takes it out until next morning. Then they call him and say how come he didn't pick it up... he says he wasn't working. Done for the day, thanks. LOL

I'm sure there are jobs where this practice is not possible, but I just find his approach rather funny.

jm951 07-16-2004 12:28 PM

Since mine shows what number is dialing, after "hours" it frequently gets left on mute. Gee... I must have been out of range

widebody911 07-16-2004 01:55 PM

What cracks me up is the people who say they'd "die" without their phone. The usual cell phone conversation I overhear goes something like this:

*annoying ringtone*
Yo?
Nwhat up?
Nothing, I'm at __________
Cool.
Yeah, me too.
No ****?
Wow!
Really?
I dunno, maybe go over to _____
..

Yeah, sounds like someone who'd really die without it.

For the record, I don't have a cell phone and don't see myself getting one any time soon, but those hand-held cell jammers are tempting. I'd rig one in the car and become the Rolling "Cone of Silence" (to add to my legend as the Rolling Chicane)

Isabo 07-17-2004 12:29 AM

I agree about annoying cell phone users. Italy has one of the highest number of users and buyers of cell phones. They are also fashion and status items - one must have the "in" model.
I was astounded when I was shown internet forums for cell phones!
My husband is never very far from his two phones (one work, one private; both always switched on so what's the point of two?) My other part time boss, Milu, has his switched off more often than not saying if it's important they'll call back or send me an e-mail. Clients often spend days trying to track him down. He is the only person I know who is not a slave to the cellphone.
I have mine always with me so my husband and daughter can always reach me (Ok I admit it, I'm a worrying mother although my daughter is in her twenties and left home years ago)

nostatic 07-17-2004 08:53 AM

it is interesting to look at how phones are used by different age groups in different countries. The US is waaay behind things compared to Asia. BUT, we also have a very different culture, and the phones get used in different ways. This is another classic case of the technology advancing before the social side of things. Its sorting out, but when things take the next leap (mesh networks and/or portable media controllers), then we'll be in the same boat again.

As for cell etiquette, mine is always on vibrate. During meetings I will look to see if it is important (like my son's school) and only if it is from a mission critical person will I quietly leave the room to answer the call. In "the wild" I will tend to answer a few more calls, but I don't have "buddies" who call...it tends to be either real work or band work.

As for talking in line at the store, assuming that someone is talking in a normal tone of voice, how is that different from them talking to someone standing next to them? Once you get past the shock of someone talking "to themselves" (until you see the phone), I don't see much different. This is a new century and new rules are evolving. I do think that the user has the obligation to keep things fairly quiet though.

In a resturant I would say it is less acceptable, but it depends on the place. "Classy" places generally have cell phone bans, but I keep mine on and set to vibrate...if it rings I'll check the number, and if I need to answer it, quiety head out of the resturant.

Since public places are not "quiet zones" (other than perhaps libraries), I don't see how someone talking on a phone is that much different from them having a conversation with someone standing next to them. The new technologies are changing our concepts of "place", and phenomenon like people being at a concert and holding up their cell phone so their buddy can hear the show, mobbing (mobile blogging, sending photos from where you are to give others a sense of involvement), are all modifying day-to-day life.

Just like when the trains were built....and the car came into its own...and airplanes....and when telephone was invented...society changes in response to technological advances.

singpilot 07-17-2004 09:00 AM

I just downloaded a cowbell ringer.

Now when I need more cowbell, I can get it.

Mine IS on vibrate anywhere except outside, where both are on.

bluebullet 07-17-2004 09:08 AM

I cant really answer my phone all that much either because nextel service sucks:D . I gave my two way number to one of my friends, and it turned out to be the worst thing ever....he would never alert me, he would just key the two way button and just talk into the phone....not thinking hey I might be talking to a customer or actually working. They he gets mad when I dont answer because he's always tryin to 'get a hook up' at my old job. Id get chirped at 2AM...which is why i leave the phone on silent or vibrate...the only people who know to call me at that time is my boss, my girl or my mom.

Not too many people call me, I usually use mine more for outgoing stuff (calling other shops for parts and etc). I cant remember the last time i used my phone to ask a friend if they were hangin out or not.

nostatic 07-17-2004 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by singpilot
I just downloaded a cowbell ringer.

Now when I need more cowbell, I can get it.


:D

don't fear the reaper...


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