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ronin 07-19-2004 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by widebody911
So are steel and aluminum, for that matter.
umm, yeah. those are readily turned into UF6 :rolleyes:

techweenie 07-19-2004 08:20 AM

Actually, some aluminum tubes Iraq ordered did have US intelligence folks in an uproar. But the application turned out to be relatively benign.

No one has yet answered why Iraq, with tons of uranium ore deposits on its own territory, tons of "semi-enriched" ore in its posession, and NO means of turning the stuff into a weapon would be pursuing yellowcake as alleged.

There are several explanations I can think of:

1. All of the 'yellowcake' info was made up. Several sources subscribe to this theory, and some have suggested Iran as the instigator of the forgeries.

2. Saddam was desperately trying to appear strong to his aggressive (and nuke-capable) neighbor, Iran, and wanted them (and the rest of the world) to think he had more powerful weapons at hand than he really did. This explanation would cover his lack of cooperation with the UN weapons inspectors. Saddam knew that if Iran attacked again, this time, he could not count on help from the US -- or any one else, for that matter.

widebody911 07-19-2004 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by ronin
umm, yeah. those are readily turned into UF6 :rolleyes:
Ah, but you're making the logical leaps that yellowcake would be turned into uranium hexaflouride, and then used in weapons.

Steel and aluminum can be used to make all kinds of WMD, therefore, they should be outlawed.


Moneyguy1 07-19-2004 12:33 PM

I agree with Tech.

Bluff is a very big part of any nation's defense scheme. Showing a potential weakness to an adversary just tempts the adversary. If , however, he thinks you can respond in kind, an uneasy peace can continue to exist, at least for awhile.

on-ramp 07-19-2004 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by araine901
On Ramp? I notice you like to call Bush a war criminal. Do you serioulsy think he could be convicted of war crimes or do you just like to use inflamitory terms?
ok, maybe that's a tad harsh, but it sure comes close.... perhaps he could be charged with a few things.... under international laws.

the point is this, the criteria he used to justify invasion could be used against a haldful of other nations. and so why did he choose Iraq?

ronin 07-19-2004 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by widebody911
Ah, but you're making the logical leaps that yellowcake would be turned into uranium hexaflouride, and then used in weapons.

Steel and aluminum can be used to make all kinds of WMD, therefore, they should be outlawed.

leave it to me to totally overlook that yellowcake is a building material used to build cars, planes, boats, buildings, bridges, appliances, toys, climbing gear, railroads, computers, tools, hardware, ships, satellites, picture frames, sailboat masts, ski poles, and a host of others. not the least of which being beer cans

come to think of it, didn't Saddam have a new program for finding a cure for cancer?

techweenie 07-19-2004 08:06 PM

I still don't understand why supposedly seeking yellowcake is such a big deal when Saddam:

1. Couldn't get more (he already had plenty)

2. Couldn't use it anyway.

It's a non-issue.


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