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CarreraS2 07-19-2004 03:54 PM

Just sing, damn it!
 
I don't break out into an unsolicited song while I am working - that's not what people pay me to do . . .

why can't entertainers ever learn to just entertain their customers, isn't that what they are being paid for?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040719/ap_on_en_mu/people_ronstadt

84porsche 07-19-2004 05:08 PM

Wow - that sounds much worse than what happened to the Dixie Chicks. I wonder why when people actually speak up about something that others don't respect their free speech.

And as far as the show was concerned, they came to hear her sing so they should just enjoy her singing and get over it. She was being paid to entertain so in this case she should just sing and keep political crap out of it. I actually have tickets for her sometime next year. This ought to be interesting.

CarreraS2 07-19-2004 05:14 PM

That kind of stuff doesn't really bother me, personally, at all.

I just think it is kind of 1) arrogant, and 2) goofy.

It is arrogant because it's not clear to me where a multi-millionaire singer gets the idea that I, who merely paid $95 to hear them sing and to entertain me for an evening, actually care to hear about their political beliefs.

It is goofy because it would be like if a client came to me for advice, and I said, "Well, I've researched your problem and found your solution. But before I tell you, you gotta hear this killer rendition of "Blue River" that I do!"

TimT 07-19-2004 05:18 PM

Performers have Always been political... Lenny Bruce...Adolf Hitler...Woody Guthrie....Ronstadt...Young,Nelson..Those Christian groups that Rock the Bible.. they preach...

Apparently the first amendment doesnt apply in Las Vegas...

I guess I grew up in a different place than what the US has become

oh flame away... you wont get an argument out of me...


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BlueSkyJaunte 07-19-2004 05:29 PM

First Amendment has nothing to do with it...Unless the GOVERNMENT shut her up.

rcecale 07-19-2004 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TimT
Apparently the first amendment doesnt apply in Las Vegas...
From the article...
Ronstadt's comments drew loud boos and some of the 4,500 people in attendance stormed out of the theater. People also tore down concert posters and tossed cocktails into the air.


"It was a very ugly scene," Aladdin President Bill Timmins told The Associated Press. "She praised him and all of a sudden all bedlam broke loose."


The first ammendment doesn't allow someone to scream "FIRE!" in a crowded movie theater, or other inciteful speech. Perhaps a bit of research into the demographics of her audience would have been a good idea. And as far as the people booing, one could argue they were exercising their own freedom of speech.

Don't get me wrong, she DID have every right to say whatever she said. It IS a free country, afterall. She just also needed to realize that may be repercussions from saying it. We may have the freedom of speech, but the ability to force someone to listen isn't part of the bargain.

If nothing else, it would seem like just good business to give her the boot. No matter who the messenger is or what the message may be. If paying guests are THAT unhappy, you need to do something to make them happy. This IS a capitalist society, not a socialist one.

Randy

CarreraS2 07-19-2004 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TimT

Apparently the first amendment doesnt apply in Las Vegas...

I guess I grew up in a different place than what the US has become

oh flame away... you wont get an argument out of me...


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Why do you say that?

The audience was perfectly free to exercise their rights to express their displeasure with her performance (for which they paid good money). And they did.

Seems like the first amendment is alive and well in Vegas. Everyone had the right to exercise free speech as they felt appropriate, including Ms. Ronstadt, and everyone did. Yeah, maybe tossing a cocktail in the air isn't exactly covered free speech, but that seemed like a very minor issue.

Isn't that exactly how the first amendment is supposed to work?

Tell me what I'm missing.


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