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Bill Verburg 07-30-2004 01:07 PM

Would you believe?
 
This
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1091221500.jpg

Becomes this?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1091221606.jpg

widebody911 07-30-2004 01:09 PM

looks like someone's sportin' big wood...

Moses 07-30-2004 01:45 PM

I'll bet that's strong as hell. A circular glue-lam. Love it!

Bill Verburg 07-30-2004 02:22 PM

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I'll bet that's strong as hell.
And heavy, that one is north of 7500#, it's sitting there because we made a 700# carbon fiber replacement, that won't dry rot.

Moses 07-30-2004 02:24 PM

So you save more than 3 tons! How much higher will it float?

lendaddy 07-30-2004 02:25 PM

Bill,

Can't they center bore those once they have set? Not that you'de get anywhere near 700Lbs but I bet you could drop over half the weight with similar strength.

BlueSkyJaunte 07-30-2004 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by Bill Verburg
we made a 700# carbon fiber replacement, that won't dry rot.
Geez, how much did THAT run you?

Bill Verburg 07-30-2004 02:46 PM

The one on the shop floor is the foremast on this

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1091227236.jpghttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1091227441.jpg

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Can't they center bore those once they have set?
They are hollow, but you can only leave out so much before they turn into straw, that will snap in a decent blow.
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Geez, how much did THAT run you?
If you gotta ask then you cannot afford it.

911pcars 07-30-2004 03:11 PM

Is it possible to reinforce the hollow wooden mast with a tight-fitting CF tube or use a CF tube (for strength and ultimate lightness) with a thick veneer (~1/2 of real wood (for authenticity)?

Glad to see inventive ways of using dwindling natural resources. I would suspect in the past, an entire tree would have to be sacrificed to manufacture a single mast (or telephone pole).

Sherwood

Bill Verburg 07-30-2004 03:43 PM

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Is it possible to reinforce the hollow wooden mast with a tight-fitting CF tube or use a CF tube (for strength and ultimate lightness) with a thick veneer (~1/2 of real wood (for authenticity)?
Oh yeah! the second pic is w/ the c/f mast. It has a thin veneer to simulate the look of the original. Total wall thickness w/ the veneer is ~.5":) It looked like a sewer pipe on the rack.

widebody911 07-30-2004 05:15 PM

I remember seeing the keel pic a while ago; is this your new weekend toy?

Bill Verburg 07-30-2004 06:20 PM

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I remember seeing the keel pic a while ago; is this your new weekend toy?
LOL, No, this going to a maritime museum

Zeke 07-31-2004 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by 911pcars
Is it possible to reinforce the hollow wooden mast with a tight-fitting CF tube or use a CF tube (for strength and ultimate lightness) with a thick veneer (~1/2 of real wood (for authenticity)?

Glad to see inventive ways of using dwindling natural resources. I would suspect in the past, an entire tree would have to be sacrificed to manufacture a single mast (or telephone pole).

Sherwood

Entire tree for a utility pole, yes. Many trees for what I see on the floor.

curlesw 07-31-2004 02:43 PM

How long did it take to make?

Wayne C.

motion 07-31-2004 02:57 PM

Wouldn't wood be preferred? Renewable, biodegradable, etc. I guess the CF is good as long as it doesn't snap and explode everywhere.

lendaddy 07-31-2004 03:04 PM

I am not sure what the failure properties on CF are, but I pole vaulted in HS and god help you if you snapped your pole! It was ugly! It really was like an explosion.

911pcars 08-01-2004 01:51 AM

They make race cars and airplanes out of CF. Properly engineered, it's fine. Overly stressed (like steel), it will probably fail.

Sherwood

}{arlequin 08-02-2004 10:37 PM

That's really cool. I have a shaft on my cue stick that's made out of 10 pie-shaped pieces. Minimizes deflection. It's cool to see the same concept applied in an item that's 7499.90# heavier....

Porsche-O-Phile 08-03-2004 01:02 AM

Dunno. I inherently hate glue-lam construction. It's NOT environmentally better since all the glues and hardeners can contain VOCs. I don't know about the long-term viability of the stuff either. There are houses in Europe that have stood for hundreds of years with timber-frame construction; I seriously doubt glue-lam beams are going to last a fraction of that.

That really is a gorgeous boat though!


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