Our President...I'm only the messenger....

[rcm]

> Our President
>
> This is great!! Really makes you stop & think!!
> Learn these facts to properly debate our poor misguided friends &
> family
> before election time !!!
>
> There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of
> January.....
> In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of
> January.
>
> That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war torn
> country of
> Iraq.
>
> When some claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state
> the
> following ...
>
> FDR...
> led us into World War II.
> Germany never attacked us: Japan did.
> From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost,
> an average of 112,500 per year.
>
> Truman...
> finished that war and started one in Korea,
> North Korea never attacked us.
> From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost,
> an average of 18,334 per year.
>
> John F. Kennedy...
> started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.
> Vietnam never attacked us.
>
> Johnson...
> turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
> From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost,
> an average of 5,800 per year.
>
> Clinton...
> went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent,
> Bosnia never attacked us.
> He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter
> three times by Sudan and did nothing.
> Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
>
>
> In the two years since terrorists attacked us
> President Bush has .
> liberated two countries,
> crushed the Taliban,
> crippled al-Qaida,
> put nuclear inspectors in Libya,
> Iran and North Korea
> without firing a shot,
> and captured a terrorist who slaughtered
> 300,000 of his own people.
>
> The Democrats are complaining
> about how long the war is taking, but...
> It took less time to take Iraq
> than it took Janet Reno to take the
> Branch Davidian compound.
> That was a 51 day operation.
>
> We've been looking for evidence of
> chemical weapons in Iraq for less
> time than it took Hillary Clinton to
> find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
>
> It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division
> and the Marines to destroy the Medina
> Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to
> call the police after his Oldsmobile
> sank at Chappaquiddick.
>
> It took less time to take Iraq than it took
> to count the votes in Florida!!!!
>
> Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB!
> The Military moral is high!
>
> The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize
> the facts.
>
> PASS IT ON.
>
>

[VaSteve]

Originally posted by rcm
>> We've been looking for evidence of
> chemical weapons in Iraq for less
> time than it took Hillary Clinton to
> find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
>
> It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division
> and the Marines to destroy the Medina
> Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to
> call the police after his Oldsmobile
> sank at Chappaquiddick.
>

>

LOL

[Mulholland]

I,mmmmmmmmmmmm meeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllttttttttttttttttttttti iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinggggggggggggg!!!! {/liberal}

[widebody911]

Congratulation on the award for the most disingenious pass-it-around email claptrap...

[VaSteve]

Hey I see no bashing of Carter in there. What gives???

[nostatic]

Originally posted by rcm
> Our President

> In the two years since terrorists attacked us
> President Bush has .
> liberated two countries,
> crushed the Taliban,
> crippled al-Qaida,
> put nuclear inspectors in Libya,
> Iran and North Korea
> without firing a shot,
> and captured a terrorist who slaughtered
> 300,000 of his own people.
>
>

now how many of those are actually true? hmmm...

[JavaBrewer]

Originally posted by nostatic
now how many of those are actually true? hmmm...

> two years since terrorists attacked us - TRUE
> President Bush - TRUE
> crippled al-Qaida - TRUE
> and captured a terrorist who slaughtered
> 300,000 of his own people - TRUE, +/- the 300K

How's that

[nostatic]

Pretty good David, although I'm not sure about the al-Qaida part. Unless you're talking about a particular member who is now crippled. *That* I could believe

[JavaBrewer]

Found on the internet -

1. crippled , halt, halting, lame, game -- (disabled in the feet or legs; "a crippled soldier"; "a game leg")

So if you meant "crippled al-Qaida" as destroyed, elminated, 100% neutralized then yes that would be a false statement. I believe al-Qaida is crippled in the sense of a greatly diminished capability. Oh and they are pretty lame too.

-edit, now if only I could spell eliminated.

[on-ramp]

LOL!

the world's #1 superpower goes to war with one of the poorest nations in the world and some are bragging about how long it took to "take" Iraq.

If i have a fight with an ant, i can step on it and kill it in about a second. i'm so good at what i do! haha.

[Moneyguy1]

Just off the top of my head..The day after Pearl Harbor, Hitler declared war on the United States. Prior to that, ships from the U.S. headed for England with supplies were being torpedoed and a state of war didn't exist. Roosevelt did not want to get involved in Europe.

Your knowledge re: WW II is lacking. There were even U boats operating in th Gulf of Mexico, sinking passenger and cargo ships.

It would be rather easy for a historian to change most of that list into drivel with facts. Simplifying international events into sound bytes minimizes the problems of the time. Armchair experts, given the advantage of coming after the events can always find fault with the decisions. I seriously doubt if you, put in the position of the leaders you have mentioned could have done any better.

You will have to do far better to justify the "quagmire" we are getting ourselves into.

[Pete Pranger]

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Just off the top of my head..The day after Pearl Harbor, Hitler declared war on the United States. Prior to that, ships from the U.S. headed for England with supplies were being torpedoed and a state of war didn't exist. Roosevelt did not want to get involved in Europe.

Your knowledge re: WW II is lacking. There were even U boats operating in th Gulf of Mexico, sinking passenger and cargo ships.

Hmmmmmmmm....

I hate to "hijack" a thread, and I mean no offense but I must interject here.

Early in 1941 FDR extended the navy's neutrality zone from 300 miles off shore to mid-Atlantic and put US troops on Greenland and Iceland.

By July, naval "patrols" were extended to Iceland to protect American ships and Brirsh ships were allowed in the convoys.

None of this was done with congerssional authorization.

Hitler ordered his U-boats to "avoid incidents with U.S. ships".

When the Greer was fired on FDR said "I tell you the blunt fact that the German submarine fired first upon this American destroyer without warning". He said the Greer had been on a "mail run".

FDR then called German u-boats "the rattlesnakes of the Atlantic" and ordered US warships to shoot them on sight "when you see a ratlesnake poised to strike, you do not wait until he has struck before you crush him".

This also was done without congressional authorization.

A senate investigation found that the Greer was not in fact a "mail ship", but had been trailing the u-boat for 3 1/2 hours radioing it's position to british forces attacking it with depth charges. An attack the Greer joined. The U-boat fired in self defense.

Churchill told his cabinet "the president has said that he would become more and more provocative. If the Germans did not like it, they could attack American forces. Everything was to be done to force an incident"

When the Kearny was torpedoed on Oct. 17, FDR stated "America has been attacked by Germany", neglecting to add that the Kearny was dropping depth charges on the U-boat before being "attacked".

FDR wanted war with Germany even though the American people did not.

BTW which passenger ships were sunk in the Gulf of Mexico prior to the declaration of war?

Pete