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is it ever ok to hit a girl?

i got into this discussion with a woman. she said under no circumstances is it ok to open up a can off wupasss on a woman.
i disagreed. surely, if you could graciously get away, by all means. but what if a woman is attacking you or your pcar with a baseball bat. can you not defend self and property? it all started when we saw a video on tv, about a woman kicking a dudes butt.

oh, please see the humor in this, i am not a lady beater.

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Yes -- under the same circumstances it'd be OK to hit a guy. Welcome to gender "equality"; it's not a la carte.

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This is scary.

I thought of posting this very question this morning...out of the blue.
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Yep, if equality is what's requested, then let them have equality.

My wife spent all our money, made life emotionally difficult for me, then moved to Arizona. She's been employed (or operating her own business) for the entire 25+ years I have known her. Still, I am talking with her attorney about not just child support, but "rehabilitative maintenance" (Washington States equivalent of alimony) and a split of debts and assets that heavily favors her. So.........if the roles were reversed, kind of laughs do you suppose I'd hear if I requested the treatment?

Okay, that's as far down that road as I intend to go in this discussion. but I will report that there are females out there that can usually clobber a grown man. My daughter's roommate has been observed cleaning the clocks of some ordinary (not necessarily wimpy) grown men.

If I caught a woman trying to steal my car, I'd probably try to stop her. If she took a poke at me, I'd assume Roger's Rules of Order are no longer in play.
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Anyone has a right to defend themselves and I'm sure there are some women out there who choose to assault men. I've heard that one has to recieve 3 blows from an assailant before a plea of "self defense" can be made. I'll take 3 hits but after that it's freakin game on biotch and like the song say's "this aint no party, this aint no disco, this aint no foolin around".
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I would say that it is alright to knock a girl out if she has a weapon ie. knife, bat, gun. If she is just hitting you then I would say punching her in the face is out of the question. Maybe a soft one to the gut. I would definitely restrain her by the arms or neck if necessary. A man should never throw the first punch when it comes to women and should avoid throwing any punches at all. What are you really going to gain by hitting a 100 lbs person? I court date thats for sure.
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I would say that it is alright to knock a girl out if she has a weapon ie. knife, bat, gun. If she is just hitting you then I would say punching her in the face is out of the question. Maybe a soft one to the gut. I would definitely restrain her by the arms or neck if necessary. A man should never throw the first punch when it comes to women and should avoid throwing any punches at all. What are you really going to gain by hitting a 100 lbs person? I court date thats for sure.
I see your point but what if she's 218lbs, drunk and didn't see the humor in the "fat chick" joke you just shared with the boys at your end of the bar, now she's trying to whack you over the head with a beer bottle while screaming something about her thyroid problem and how her husband just left her for his skinny ass 21 year old sextratary? You going to restrain her by holding her arms behind her?
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In truth, for all my rough-tough talk, I'd have a hard time hitting a female.

I'd question the notion that three blows must be endured before concluding that self-defense actions are warranted. Being from a logging town in the middle of Nowhere, Idaho, I've seen more than my share of bar fights. It's a polular pastime. Typically, they're over in about a half-minute. the trick is to punch the other guy first, in the face (causing disorientation), and then continuing that same treatment at the rate of one or two blows per second until the opponent's head is touching the ground. Game over.

BTW, one of my favorite bar signs, behind the bar in a tavern in my hometown, says:

ABSOLUTELY NO FIGHTING. DON'T EVEN ASK.
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I spent my entire karate career getting the crap kicked out of me by my sensei--a middle-aged, 5'4", Jewish-mom, 5th-degree black belt in Okinawan karate.

Women and men are 100% equal in "punchability", IMHO.
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I've been on the receiving end of more than a few female punches. I found through trial & error that the best thing to do is get the hell away from the crazy b1tch & stay away. If you do anything else, you have to be prepared for the consequences which are usually a lot worse than a few lumps in the back of the head. They key is to control your anger. An angry man doesn't always see a female in front of him when he unleashes his fury.
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People can make up a ton of scenarios under which they could justify striking a woman. Most of them would never happen. And personally, a woman hitting my car with a bat is not enough for me to compromise my values. I can get a new car.

I say the answer is a firm 'NO'. That's what I teach my son. A man should not hit a woman. Blue's circumstance is different and not the norm.

I also want add that Blue is someone I respect and would want my son to know.
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I would generally expect that it would never actually be necessary (and justifiable, as discussed above)... but if it was, why not.

What are you really going to gain by hitting a 100 lbs person? I court date thats for sure.

Ha! My wife is my height (6' tall) and I would never disclose a woman's weight but she is NOT 100lb. She is still pretty weak though (even in comparison to me - I'm 160lbish and thus pretty skinny).
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Years ago my roomate and I were having some friends over for a little weekend fun. Late into the evening his date was drunk and getting on everyones nerves. I had backed her to a wall to explain that if she didn't mellow out she would have to leave. She didn't take well to the idea and was screaming at me to "just try it". My roomate stepped in between us to seperate us and she knee'd that poor boy in the groin so bad it made him blow chunks. I picked her up by the arm pits and went to toss her out the back door. I wasn't trying to hurt her but it was time for this 85lb dorm room delight to be gone. As I tossed her she grabbed two handfulls of my hair and I went down with her. There's the two of us on the grass with her on her back and me on top of her and her screaming bloody murder how she's going to make our lives a living hell. I was trying to get up but her grip on my hair was death defying. I reeled back and with all my might drilled this she devil in the gut. Nothing, not even a whimper. I was preparing for a second assault when what I thought was my roomate or other party guest's pulling me by the back of my collar turned out to be two Burbank Police Officers called to the scene by a neighbor. Once they seperated the two of us, she proceeded to take them on. Full tilt no hold barred. She ended her night in a drunk tank facing charges from me, my roomate and two of Burbanks finest.
Now you wonder if it's ever appropriate to strike a woman?
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A question... if alcohol was not a factor, would this have happened anyway? And yes, I stand by my answer. If you want her out and she won't leave, call Burbank's finest yourself.
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If alchohol or some other mind alteration wasn't involved then you probably wouldn't have the question to begin with.

Once in a while I hit my sister back (we are both well into adulthood). She deserves it - she never knows when it's going to be and it's always the brotherly punch in the arm (not too hard but hard enough for her to recall it).

Wife saw it and laughed at her so it must have been okay - after all - she's the conscience.
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A question... if alcohol was not a factor, would this have happened anyway?
Most likely not. But to say that NO situation would ever justify striking a woman is unrealistic. With all due respect I'm afraid our opinions differ.
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Frankly there are plenty of situations that could justify it. Basically if she's not acting like a lady then I doubt you'll be required to act like a gentleman.

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