OBL Waiting . . .
 

OBL is waiting for a GW defeat.

OBL wants to show the world his power . .. his power to influence our elections with nothing more than his taped threat of of more 9-11 type attacks.

OBL wants to show the world that he was right, that the "Americans have too weak a stomach to fight"

If Kerry wins, OBL will be clamoring about how the Americans bowed to his demands. This will be another HUGE feather in his cap (so to speak)

OBL will then have the twist needed to show would-be terrorist that HE is the one winning.. . .that Alqeda is blessed by Alah-yadda-yadda.

OBL will then start demands on the US and Kerry.

Kerry will pontificate in response, until OBL hits us hard again, at which point, Kerry will be forced to further pontificate.:rolleyes:

Keep in mind, GW is the symbol of US strength against OBL. OBL's bank-accounts were siezed under GW Bush. OBL's training-camps have been shut-down by US action under GWBush.

OBL is focused on sending the US hate and destruction. His goal in knocking down the power symbol, Bush, is just one step.

Why would he help GWB win with a threatening tape then?

OBL does that Witchdoctor thing. . ..like when they know an eclipse is coming they say"do as I say or I will blot-out the sun"

OBL see's the M Moore effect, the delection (new word) of GW Bush, and so he positions himself to take credit.

All OBL needs to do is scare a couple per hundred with his "I'll only attack states that vote for Bush" crap and there ya go.

Well, the vast majority of the American public doesn't know about the 'states' threat.

And Republican strategists just don't agree with your assessment. This is what they said about the tape:

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"...We want people to think 'terrorism' for the last four days," said a Bush-Cheney campaign official. "And anything that raises the issue in people's minds is good for us."

A senior GOP strategist added, "anything that makes people nervous about their personal safety helps Bush."

He called it "a little gift," saying it helps the President but doesn't guarantee his reelection.?..."

Boy you neoCONS are getting desperate. Now were supposed to vote according to what terrorist think. Your mentally insane.

Lets see.

If I vote for Bush that will make UBL happy, make Arafat mad, but please hilter and pol pot, but please satan.

If I vote for Kerry that won't make UBL happy, but Arafat and Sharon will smile, hilter will roll over in his grave, and Sadr won't like it.

You neocons definately need Bush's mandatory mental health check.

That's embarrassing. I vote for the mandatory mental health check also. I've seen some opposing viewpoints that made me think here....but that's certainly not one of them.

But at any rate, be sure you help the current administration scare everyone who is "scarable" (another new word). Those are Dubya's potential votes. I'm sure I know a phrase Monty Python would use. "Brave, frightened Americans."

Must be tough to type with your head buried.

There would be no problem t all if Bush had killed OBL instead of going into Iraq. So, who has to go now ?

Aurel

OBL is looking to make a comeback. (his organiztion and funding have been largely gutted)

You want him to go back to spinning things up again?

Kerry would let him.

And what if OBL really forgot about the states that voted for Kerry, and left them unscatered just like FRANCE ?

Aurel

Lordy. What loony bizarro world was that posted from?

It isn't Kerry's family that has longstanding ties with the bin Ladens. It's Bush.

It isn't Kerry who dodged conflict in the 'war of his generation.' It was Bush.

Bush has had 3+ years to dispose of OBL. But he can't make up his mind to do so:

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“I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run.” He described bin Laden at the time as “marginalized” and said, “I just don’t spend that much time on him.” (March, 2002)
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We've seen endless Bush PR about 'top al Quaeda leaders' being killed or captured. But AQ operates loosely, in cells... have we really hurt them, organizationally? They've allegedly had a membership growth spurt post-Iraq invasion.

And what evidence do you have that we've hurt them financially?

Did anyone ever follow up on all the put option activity and short-selling of airline and other stocks in early September '01? Somebody made miilions based on foreknowledge of 9/11. My guess is that it was AQ operatives. Not to mention OBL's supposed $300 billion... (s/b MILLION -- thank you, Tabs)

Mr Ed will threaten to send that creepy ass wife of his after bin laden. That should scare him!

You lefties must have missed the fact that Bush has killed or captured 75% of bin laden's boys.

I read an article a while ago that demonstrated quite clearly that the greatest beneficiary of the put options on airline stocks had been...the US governement. I cant remember how they came to that conclusion, but I could fetch it back from the web if anyone is interrested.

Aurel

OBL net worth is in the 200M to 300M range....not 300 BILLION...get yur facts straight.

Tabs: sorry. From where I sit, a million might as well be a billion.

:-(

But OBL himself is as you say $200 - 300 million. The family holdings are in the billions.

Yes the families holdings are in the Billions..but that doesn't mean he has access to them...Osma is their Black Sheep...

Disputable at best. Do you believe everything the media tells you? :rolleyes:

Ah, dd breaks out a Micheal Moore zinnger of a comeback.


:rolleyes:


...something tells me that you know tabs is hardly a single-source Kool-aide drinker. So why the dig, dd?

IMO, OBL sees a negotiator in Kerry. The most recent video shows the new and improved OBL who is attempting to position himself as a legitimate political leader...ala Arafat.

Really? I must have not been paying attention when the did the Terrorist Census.

Does this WAG factor in the new recruits? Or are you assuming all the kids killed in Iraq would have grown up to be terrorists, and therefore killing them now is a Good Thing?

I think that you are right. Good observation. It's like OBL is saying "9/11 ? . . .that was just a little pay-back. We're even now, so let's talk."

Scary. . .Kerry likely would.

Osama wouldn't be willing to talk unless he's in a world of hurt...

Osama's mother was a minor wife, and she was from another ME country...Syria I think....so Osama really didn't fit in too well with the other family members..He is the zealot in the family..You know the ones thats always talking about Allah...

The family depends on the Saudi Royal family for it's wealth and position in society...so Osama isn't really welcome...but mothers are known to slip a few Million to their wayward sons in a time of need....

Osamas goal is to rid Saudi Arabia of the corruption and immorality that the House of Saud brings upon the people of the Kingdom...to do that he must purge the Kingdom of the House of Saud...and he can't accomplish his goal so long as the USA maintains it's presence in the region. If he is successfull in purging the House of Saud an Islamic State will be set up modeled on the Taliban and all will be just in the Kingdom again..Once an Islamic state is set up in Saudi Arabia, Saudi can start to use it's influence and wealth to spread the Jihad to neighboring states eventually the region will become one Islamic state.

oh tabs . . .you know you just plucked that from the bubble-head bleach-blond reporting lies on the local news. everone knows Michael Moore holds the REAL truth. See, Lynn knows too :rolleyes: ;)

I believe it only includes those resonsible for 9/11 era terrorism.

So let's parse out this thinking: Bush has either purposely spared OBL's life (most likely) or simply failed to find a 6'5" guy who needs kidney dialysis in a country where the average male is 5'8" and there are maybe a half dozen such machines...

Remember the great GWB quote about not being 'particularly concerned with finding OBL' just 6 months after September 11.

And that is better than an ex-soldier who has pledged to kill or capture him? How?

Geez tech. . .you use to at least try to hide your efforts to twist what I said.

History over digs, my friend: OBL has access to anything he wants, and as events go on, propegated by the U.S., OBL can get them anytime he wants. For all any of us know, that "black sheep" stuff is smoke and mirrors. Osama's Saudi, as is his family. And Saudi Arabia is one of our single worst long-term enemies on the planet - either GW likes to look the other way with the Saudis, or they're so successfully disingenuous that all of us have fallen for their song and dance about being allies. No, they are destroying us via our reliance on their oil - that to me makes them enemies.

As well, because of our reliance on them, we're *****ting bricks with the knowledge the current monarchy can fall quite suddenly, and be followed up by Muslim fundamentalists.

I don't know about Michael Moore - don't really care, either as he's a hack w/o credibility (save for his $10-20 million net worth). What I'm saying is news reports across the board have stated Osama gets no money from his family. Well, as I wrote, I find that disputable given general Saudi fundamentalist feelings toward the U.S. and their insistence on providing terrorists to destroy our interests, i.e. 9/11.

But hey, if you want a real "dig" let me go get my shovel. I'm sure I can work something out for you.

SmileWavy

Have you lived in Pakistan? I did. The place is not small and the local landholders do not support the government. They are small "armies", and many support Osama. They have 1/2 the population of the US (160M). Compare this to 25M for Iraq and 25M for Afghanistan.

I have also worked with the Bin Ladin corp. They are _not_ like Osama.

F*CK OBL

Looking to make a come back????? He already has and his power is fueled by Bush's policy. When America stands alone and pisses people off, he wins.

Ya mean like the 1993 WTC bombing?

Or was Bush piss'n 'em off 9/10/01 ?

Yep, if only we could get the French to stand by us.....We could get advanced training in surrender and taking blood money from ruthless dictators.

Apparently the whole world loves a coalition of losers!

Seriously, Yargk; this country took a lot of hits before hitting back.

OBL is MUCH weaker now, than when GW took office.