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bryanthompson 11-01-2004 01:55 PM

Bin Laden Adopts Democrat Talking Points
 
http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/10/30/95420.shtml

Dem Talking Point No. 1: BUSH STOLE THE 2000 ELECTION
Dem Talking Point No. 2: BUSH MISLED AMERICA
Dem Talking Point No. 3: BUSH WASTED TIME ON 9/11 BY STAYING WITH CHILDREN READING IN A CLASSROOM
Dem Talking Point No. 4: BUSH IS A FASCIST
Dem Talking Point No. 5: THE BUSH FAMILY IS TOO CLOSE TO SAUDI ROYALS
Dem Talking Point No. 6: AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY IS TO BLAME

Bin Laden hit on all of those. With that in mind, how many Republican talking points did he hit? Umm... None!

cool_chick 11-01-2004 02:08 PM

Ever occur to you that the DEMS ARE RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG??????


Nah......let's twist this so it can't be.....

hmmm....

How can I twist this one?????

bryanthompson 11-01-2004 02:10 PM

Well, if the dems are right, and Bin Laden is using their talking points, then that would make Bin laden right also, right?

So you think Bin laden is right? The man that killed 3,000 innocent americans is right?

cool_chick 11-01-2004 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bryanthompson
Well, if the dems are right, and Bin Laden is using their talking points, then that would make Bin laden right also, right?

So you think Bin laden is right? The man that killed 3,000 innocent americans is right?

Yet another stupid leap and stupid stretch from a stupid republican.


Do you feel that Bush misleading America is right?

bryanthompson 11-01-2004 02:18 PM

Ever occur to you that the DEMS ARE RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG??????

you said it, not me.

Yet another stupid leap and stupid stretch from a stupid republican.
:rolleyes:

dd74 11-01-2004 02:19 PM

Whew! For a moment there, I was wondering if that was Kerry in a really good Halloween get-up. :rolleyes:

cool_chick 11-01-2004 02:21 PM

I said Dems...you twisted in your usual fashion.

Talk about rediculous...

You're so blind by bushwashing, you're putting this country in jeopardy.

Thank God tomorrow, Kerry will win and you guys can moan all you want, but at least we'll have someone sane in office! I'm tired of that little crazy, mentally disturbed man who calls himself "president" putting us in jeopardy.

tabs 11-01-2004 02:25 PM

Hello Cool Chicky....I missed U....give em he11....LOL

bryanthompson 11-01-2004 02:29 PM

Hey, I'm just happy that Osama agrees with you democrats instead of us.
I'm glad he's not on our side.

island911 11-01-2004 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cool_chick
Do you feel that Bush misleading America is right?
Hey cc, are you still spanking your hampster daily?

techweenie 11-01-2004 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bryanthompson
I'm glad he's not on our side.
Oh, but he IS. NY Post on the OBL tape (just in case you missed it before):

"...We want people to think 'terrorism' for the last four days," said a Bush-Cheney campaign official. "And anything that raises the issue in people's minds is good for us."

A senior GOP strategist added, "anything that makes people nervous about their personal safety helps Bush."

He called it "a little gift," saying it helps the President but doesn't guarantee his reelection."

techweenie 11-01-2004 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bryanthompson
So you think Bin laden is right? The man that killed 3,000 innocent americans is right?
If bin Laden says "the sun is out" and the sun is out, then he is right about that one thing.

Talking points 2, 3 and 5 are independently verifiable. Independently verifiable facts are not 'Republican' nor 'Democrat.'

Your supposed talking point 4? Please show me where a democratic operative has said Bush is a fascist? Same with your point 6.

So that brings us down to point 1, which is perhaps arguable, but no part of any mainstream Democratic communication.

Typical straw man argument: set up the situation in your own terms and you can knock it down easily. Only it won't persuade anyone who isn't already convinced.

tabs 11-01-2004 02:45 PM

Well unless the government produces Bin Laden in the next few hours...we don't got him....

island911 11-01-2004 02:49 PM

OBL's adopts Dem's (M Moores) talking points.

cc suggest that OBL is right (correct) and inline with M Moore. (the Dem's)

tech tries to suggest that OBL did it FOR Bush.

twist twist twist

This is so absurdly stupid.

The Dem's got nothing possitive . . .NOTHING!

They spend all of their time ripping down anyone who actually DOES anything.

That is basic.

That is why all this election shenanigans don't matter.

dd74 11-01-2004 02:56 PM

The irony is, if Bush does win, he's got OBL to thank.

island911 11-01-2004 03:04 PM

?

Bush has been leading the whole time . . .not the other way around.

cool_chick 11-01-2004 04:02 PM

Dem Talking Point No. 2: BUSH MISLED AMERICA
In bin Laden's version, the terror kingpin warns that Bush is covering up the "true reason" for the 9/11 attacks:

"Although we are ushering the fourth year after 9/11, Bush is still exercising confusion and misleading you and not telling you the true reason. Therefore, the motivations are still there for what happened to be repeated."

<b>can you refute this?</b>


Dem Talking Point No. 4: BUSH IS A FASCIST
A favorite of radical Democrats, bin Laden compares the Bush administration to the authoritarian regimes in the Mideast:

"What happened was that he was impressed by the monarchies and the military regimes, and he was jealous of them staying in power for tens of years, embezzling the public money without any accountability. And he moved the tyranny and suppression of freedom to his own country, and they called it the Patriot Act, under the disguise of fighting terrorism. And Bush, the father, found it good to install his children as governors and leaders."

<b>can you refute this?</b>


Dem Talking Point No. 5: THE BUSH FAMILY IS TOO CLOSE TO SAUDI ROYALS
Bin Laden complains that their relationship spans two generations:

"The resemblance started when [former President George H.W.] Bush, the father, visited the area, when some of our own were impressed by America and were hoping that the visits would affect and influence our countries."

<b> can you refute this?</b>


Dem Talking Point No. 6: AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY IS TO BLAME
Here bin Laden adopts the position of the Cynthia McKinney wing of the Democratic Party, which blames the alliance between the U.S. and Israel for provoking the 9/11 attacks:

"After the injustice was so much and we saw transgressions and the coalition between Americans and the Israelis against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it occurred to my mind that we deal with the towers. And these special events that directly and personally affected me go back to 1982 and what happened when America gave permission for Israel to invade Lebanon. And assistance was given by the American Sixth Fleet."


<b>can you refute this?</b>

techweenie 11-01-2004 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by island911
The Dem's got nothing possitive . . .NOTHING!

They spend all of their time ripping down anyone who actually DOES anything.

Oh, you mean like criticizing someone who actually volunteered for Vietnam and fought there with honor, vs. somebody who couldn't manage to keep his flying qualifications active in the Texas National Guard?

Do you know that Kerry was a DA? What was GWB doing at the time?

Do you know Kerry, as a freshman senator, played a major role in exposing the Iran/Contra shenanigans of mid-80s? What was GWB doing at the time?

Do you want someone who can actually think ahead or someone whose reaction time is so slow that they continue with three weeks of vacation after being told 'OBL to strike within the US?'

Sorry, GWB is not a 'man of action' he is a reactionary of the worst kind.


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