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Freybird 12-14-2004 08:07 AM

Yes Mule, I agree.
We should be "more" unilateral!
Damn this politically correct war.

concentric 12-14-2004 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tabs
Osma is working quietly at an Arco Station in Orange County CA....
Never trust a station that operates on a cash only basis.

BigD9146gt 12-14-2004 02:29 PM

Well the good thing is, Osama cannot reveil himself too much to his surrounding public or else someone will give him up. So being in hiding is what he is going to do for a long time. That is, unless you beleive that there is a conspericy that Bush and or the government hired him to start this bloody mess.

pohsche 12-14-2004 02:35 PM

Now who would believe something that far fetched. After all who has gained the most from 9-11. Every terrorist wants the most powerful warring nation in the history of mankind, hunting him down.

Alan Poh
'77 Carrera 3.0

BigD9146gt 12-14-2004 02:41 PM

People beleive some amazing things. i was only stating it because there are those who think Bush is a complete foolthat makes all of his own decisions. He doesn't, he has other fools working for him feeding him info. Anything is possible.

The most powerful of all mankind? No, I would give that award to Rome. Although they didn't have the nuclear power we do, they did control more of a percentage of the "known world" than we do today.

Edited for content. -Z-man.

red ufo 12-14-2004 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigD9146gt
People beleive some amazing things. i was only stating it because there are those who think Bush is a complete fool that makes all of his own decisions. He doesn't, he has other fools working for him feeding him info. Anything is possible.

The most powerful of all mankind? No, I would give that award to Rome. Although they didn't have the nuclear power we do, they did control more of a percentage of the "known world" than we do today.

Hey this retard believes that.

I think 911 was an Israeli plot to frame up arabs and drag the US into there wars which we are now fighting on their behalf. UBL was a patsy to blame. Without him there would be some other terrorist standing inline to take credit. Cheney helped organize the final details such as military stand down, Bush knew and did nothing to stop it.

Noway 19 arabs with box cutters pulled all this off. WTC #7 is proof the building was rigged with explosives. Then you factor in the Anthrax attacks that traced back to somebody connected to Israel. The whole art student Israeli spy operation of hundreds of students and a moving companies as a front to shadow the 19 they set up. It might have been some arabs who hijacked the jets, but the Mossad was pulling the strings and watching the entire operation unfold. No doubt.

M.D. Holloway 12-14-2004 03:51 PM

Diabolical!
If true that would mean that a higher, more organized intelligence exists that can manipulate the fate of the world!
If such a thing is true, perhaps we lazy redneck folk should just let them take control and feed, cloth and clean our hinnies!

Get a grip! I only wish that sort of organizational skill existed. I would know where to go to hire some decent sales managers!

pohsche 12-14-2004 03:58 PM

19 students who trained on turbo prop planes. Anybody who knows flying knows it is a tad tougher to fly a jet aircraft much less pinpoint nail a building in a frickin jumbo jet. Maybe it was just a lucky first shot. I do not know what happened, but I do know what didn't happen, just from common sense. By the way, the buildings literally free fell using standard weight-distance calculations. The building gave no resistance which is contrary to the rules of physics.

Alan Poh
'77 Carrera 3.0

BigD9146gt 12-14-2004 04:03 PM

Red UFO, that is an argument I would never doubt. Isrial is just as f*cked up as every other nation surrounding it. I have a father figure who has been there many times because he works for a defence company that makes fighter plane electrial equipment. Anyhow, every time he has talked to an Israeli person about all the fighting, they are as irrationally emotional as one can get. But how can you blame them? THey're culture has been split up and relocated since the Roman Empire. Now they have a home that every surrounding Muslum nation wants because of a "holy" historical background.

Thats their home. Would YOU give up your only home for free because your neighbor thought their God was resurected there or something like that?

Mule 12-15-2004 06:27 AM

Pinkie said:
"I think 911 was an Israeli plot to frame up arabs and drag the US into there wars which we are now fighting on their behalf. UBL was a patsy to blame. Without him there would be some other terrorist standing inline to take credit. Cheney helped organize the final details such as military stand down, Bush knew and did nothing to stop it.

Noway 19 arabs with box cutters pulled all this off. WTC #7 is proof the building was rigged with explosives. Then you factor in the Anthrax attacks that traced back to somebody connected to Israel. The whole art student Israeli spy operation of hundreds of students and a moving companies as a front to shadow the 19 they set up. It might have been some arabs who hijacked the jets, but the Mossad was pulling the strings and watching the entire operation unfold. No doubt."

Edited for content. Personal attack removed. -Z-man.

kach22i 12-15-2004 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pohsche
19 students who trained on turbo prop planes. Anybody who knows flying knows it is a tad tougher to fly a jet aircraft much less pinpoint nail a building in a frickin jumbo jet. Maybe it was just a lucky first shot. I do not know what happened, but I do know what didn't happen, just from common sense. By the way, the buildings literally free fell using standard weight-distance calculations. The building gave no resistance which is contrary to the rules of physics.

Alan Poh
'77 Carrera 3.0

There is a book out there, written by an investigative reporter who got himself an interview on NPR, which documents that the terrorist were trained at US air bases (Florida mostly). They were all qualified and experienced pilots with years of flight time prior to the published turbo-prop information.

There is more information out there than you want to know, it will drive you crazy.

red ufo 12-15-2004 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kach22i
There is a book out there, written by an investigative reporter who got himself an interview on NPR, which documents that the terrorist were trained at US air bases (Florida mostly). They were all qualified and experienced pilots with years of flight time prior to the published turbo-prop information.

There is more information out there than you want to know, it will drive you crazy.

I think those neocons give the 19 arabs too much credit. Its phonier than a movie plot. 19 guys who don't know each will come together, learn to fly on little plans, and with military precision take large jets and hit their targets and behead the US government. Sounds like a phony Michael Bay movie with Bruce Willis to stop them.

Whoever did this was pretty smart and well financed and had some inside help from rogue government agents. Only the Mossad is clever enuff to do an dirty op so well done. A guy in a cave giving orders to rookies in flight school is to hard to believe.

pohsche 12-15-2004 07:49 AM

UFO,
I said that the moment it happened. You can check my posts from that morning. Those building where brought down. I thought that then and know that now. The Mossad is the only disciplined group that is trained at that level of precision. Just my opinion, I could be wrong. abut I don't think so.

Alan Poh

red ufo 12-15-2004 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pohsche
UFO,
I said that the moment it happened. You can check my posts from that morning. Those building where brought down. I thought that then and know that now. The Mossad is the only disciplined group that is trained at that level of precision. Just my opinion, I could be wrong. abut I don't think so.

Alan Poh

There is a show called 'conspiracy' that runs on the history channel that digs deep into all this stuff. Watched a show about OKC and it laid comparisons between Mc Veigh and the 1st WTC bombing.

In both cases the bomb makers were rookies who had little experience making bombs. Most of their prior bombs simply didn't tetonate because they weren't good chemists. However when they did the main bombs they were huge and worked 100% which is nearly impossible for somebody who don't know what they are doing. I think it was a huge mistake putting McVeigh to death. He knew alot and fell on the sword for the others.

The key to unlocking 911 is studying the Anthrax attacks that were the 2nd punch of that area. Also check into the Mossad attempt to bomb the Mexican Congress during that same period.

BigD9146gt 12-15-2004 09:40 AM

Well, I'd have an easier time agreeing with you guys but El-Al's security today and the hundreds of other airline high jackings in the past is proof that any determinded Arab is capable. Doubting someones ability because of race or educational background is the most obserd thing i can think of. Israeli students? Sure, but there is nothing saying they anymore capable than an Arab. And linking Anthrax back to Isreal? One can link anything to anyone wthl enough will.

M.D. Holloway 12-15-2004 09:57 AM

well if is the Mossad, and they do have those kinds of chops, then a few might be ready to change professions. I sure could use a couple well organized, smart ones to do some equipment reliability audits and case studies for me. And I thought the Mormons were a good hire - Mossad has them wooped by a mile!

Mark Wilson 12-15-2004 10:02 AM

I have it on good authority that it was a group of time traveling trogladites that knocked the buildings down.

pohsche 12-15-2004 10:33 AM

Trogaladites maybe. But not student pilots who left allllll kinds of easy clues behind. Crap, they found the evidence of exactly what happened before the last building fell. And when I speak about the Mossad, I am actually speaking in respect. No crack on middle easteners, there is no group in the US that could pull that one off.

Alan Poh

red ufo 12-15-2004 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pohsche
Trogaladites maybe. But not student pilots who left allllll kinds of easy clues behind. Crap, they found the evidence of exactly what happened before the last building fell. And when I speak about the Mossad, I am actually speaking in respect. No crack on middle easteners, there is no group in the US that could pull that one off.

Alan Poh

Well in respect they have the talent and money to do this. The 19 hijacker who didn't know each other but all agreed to die together and learn how to fly planes is pretty hard to believe. At first I believed all the stuff the feds said.

The more I looked at all it, the more it doesn't add up. The Mossad had these guys shadowed. Go and look at the flight manifests released on CNN website right after the attack. I assume most people here can add. Look at the names on the flights. The numbers don't add up. On most of the flights there are 8-9 names missing. 4 are supposed to be the hijackers, who are the other four? Prove me wrong on that.

The mossad has a rich history of framing arabs to get their friends to attack them by proxy. Its genius when you think about it. Do a google search on Mexico Congress Mossad and you'll see how 2 of them got caught red handed with guns and gernades trying to blow the place up. They got to fly home and probably got a medal. Even they get sloppy and screw up.

Aurel 12-15-2004 04:30 PM

Did anyone remember the mention of seismic spikes being recorded just before the collapse of each tower ? Interresting article about it here: http://rense.com/general60/seis.htm

If the records are still avaiable, it strongly supports the theory of bombs being placed at the base of the towers.

Aurel


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