When I watch it, I see her help him up, and he sucker punches her in the face. He starts the fight, but she finishes it. In you world view she should have let him hit her and walked away? I agree that doing it in front of the kids was not ideal, but they wer standing there when he started it.....

But that is not what we are talking about is it? This is what you said:

I am waving the big red BS flag on that one. The only chance this exists is if it was in some totalitarian third world ****hole. You had no problem finding links to news stories about tasers, so it shouldn't be a problem to link this video to try and reclaim a shred of credability.

Perhaps if you pay me, I'll give you the link. Otherwise there is nothing in it for me. You know capitalism, hate to be some commie just handing out the rotten videos for free.

Questions to ask:

1. Why was the camera rolling in the first place?

2. Why was he on the ground to begin with?

3. Why did she approach him?

4. Why did he sucker punch her?

5. Why did the kids act like this no no big deal, does this happen all the time?

6. Why do you think you saw the whole thing and know everything about this situation based on a partial clip?

Since the "Cop shooting a drunk" video link seems to be the root of the latest controversy in this thread, I'd like to put an end to it.

There shall be no posting of such a video here. Some already believe the taser vid is offensive and posting a vid of a police man shooting someone can be considered even more offensive, and it would likely spark a whole new 5 pages of personal attacks and such. NOTE: I am not taking any sides here - just trying to bring some sensibility back to this thread.

For those of you who wish to continue this bantering back and forth - as long as there aren't any personal attacks, go at it. Personally, I think there are better ways to spend the day than arguing over the internet with someone...

Warmest regards,
-Zoltan, OT Forum Moderator.

Never made that claim. I said "I see her help him up, and he sucker punches her in the face." That is all. I have no idea what the circumstances were, or why the camera was rolling. From the video, he throws the first punch.

We are well aware of that, because it doesn't exist.

If it did, it would have been posted by now, followed by a tirade on how are Police are evil-cops who just beat up/shoot/torture innocent people for no reason.

How about this red, PM the link to the Z-man, if he says it depicts what you say, then again, I will gladly admit that I was wrong.

Tom

Ditto.

After all Red, all we're looking for is some substantiation of your claim which you've failed to provide.

You do realize Red that amongst reasonable, mature (I'd throw in other adjectives but it might be interpreted as a personal attack...no offense Z...) individuals that you actually CAN have point/counterpoint discussions that don't resort to personal attacks?

Ever tried that?

This response doesn't surprise me, it's one of 3 or 4 he usually spits when he's cornered. Same thing he always does, parrot back when the personal attacks don't work anymore.

I guess in lieu of any proof, or any originality, it's safe to say that it was a fabricated claim, and it's time to call it a day.

Red is going to continue to sling poo from his cage, and comment without validity. That's all he's good for, urban myths, insults, excuses and stories. Forget about a rational argument.

Happy Holidays all...

rjp

Thread closed.
-Z-man.