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cegerer 12-28-2004 11:55 AM

Why Does the USA Put Up With the UN?
 
Ya know, it's so predictable. This disaster is only hours old. We don't even know the magnitude of the disaster yet and some friggin' Norwegian pinhead from the UN is already telling us we're not doing enough to help. U.S. bashing has become a popular sport amongst these minor league nations. But they all know, when all is said and done, we're the ones who will bear the brunt of the financial burden to help the affected countries get back on their feet. We always have. We always will. It's a thankless job for sure.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041228-122330-7268r.htm

Pinhead:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1104267319.jpg

widebody911 12-28-2004 11:58 AM

Without the UN, there would be no UN directives for countries to disobey, and therefore we could not invade said countries.

gaijindabe 12-28-2004 12:07 PM

I thnk the Pinhead in question has recanted. Someone has reminded him that we are paying 40% of the UN bills..

legion 12-28-2004 12:07 PM

Wrong!

Had the UN not existed, we would have had a real armistice with Iraq. When they violated that, there would have been immediate action (assuming non-Chamberlin-like leadership in our country), not years of bureaucratic wrangling.

red ufo 12-28-2004 12:09 PM

Screw the UN why do we put up with Pakistan?

After 911 Bush gave the taliban a set amount of days to turn over UBL or else, same went for Iraq with a deadline.

Why don't Bush tell Pakistan you have 2 weeks to turn over UBL or face a ton of crap.

Failure to turn him over means 100% sanctions, meaning no business with the enemy law. No IT jobs over there, no Dell customer support, nothing Fk their whole infrastructure and US reservse the right to go in and get UBL ourself.

But noooooooo, the US is a big p$ssy and sends our jobs to the same country harboring UBL. WTF? This is so $ss backwards and upside down, send our IT and jobs to where ever UBl lives.

We threaten all the IT jobs and watch Pakistan cough up UBL in a NY minute. Instead we send them all our jobs and let their local thug dictator propaganda for the wars.

legion 12-28-2004 12:17 PM

I agree in part with red ufo on the Pakistan thing. We shouldn't put up with them.

Problem is, they are the Romania of the Middle Ages or the West Germany of the Cold War, if you will. They are what stands directly between us and the threat. That puts us in the unfortunate position of having to deal with a military dictator who freely exports nuclear technology and undermines all our efforts in the area.

I tend to believe that if Pakistan wasn't nuclear, we would have treated them something like Afghanistan. But it's hard to justify attacking someone who is making every appearance of cooperating. The UN went ballistic over us attacking a regime that was uncooperative in every way, shape, and form--they'd at least have the veneer of a good argument for condemning us for attacking an "allie".

Reg 12-28-2004 01:44 PM

Hey fella's :)

Let's not forget that there is a world out there. The US of A is just a part of it. Let's all just get along, eh!

cegerer 12-28-2004 01:50 PM

<i>"The US of A is just a part of it."</i>

The difference is we're the part of it with the checkbook.

Reg 12-28-2004 01:57 PM

Curt
With the USA being the richest country it should have the deepest pockets. Everyone do their part, right?

cegerer 12-28-2004 02:11 PM

That's my point exactly. Everybody loves to complain about the USA ...... until disaster strikes. Then they automatically assume we will ride in on our white horse and save the day. And we do.

So far, the USA has pledged 35 million dollars to the relief effort, as "a downpayment". I predict by the time this is over several years from now, the USA will be into billions, not millions - this for an area of the world that is predominately Muslim ......

So how about our loudmouth 'friends and allies' in Europe? The 25-member EU - who have a combined economy <u>larger than the USA</u> - have pledged a grand total of $4 million ....... this includes pinhead's home country of Norway. But that's typical and expected.

America, the Great Santa. :rolleyes:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16473

red ufo 12-28-2004 02:28 PM

cegerer

If this happened in the US. Instantly they put some price tag on it like 20 billion. But this is probably a hell of a lot more. So a few million is like offering up a few pennies from the millionares.

But I agree this is not time to spin this into partisanship. Is it even an issue or a placed scandal by drudge

Serge914 12-28-2004 02:34 PM

I dont know where they got their numbers (The Center for the Study of Popular Culture ) but according to Agence France-Presse Norway already gave $8 Millions. Canada seem pretty cheap also at $5 millions, almost 25 cents per habitant.:rolleyes:

red-beard 12-28-2004 03:03 PM

France $166,000 - As just reported on the news.

rrpjr 12-28-2004 04:15 PM

What I enjoyed was Mr. Undersecretary-General Pinhead's suggestion that we just raise our taxes. Always a pleasure to get advice on our domestic policy from a man who lives in the United States under diplomatic immunity and pays no taxes.

Of course, these funds and more are essential to the UN, for once they install themselves at the scene they'll need to support their usual massive portable infrastructure.

Interesting sidenote: just after the fall of Bahgdad a delegation from Eastern Europe visited Iraq to consult on nation-building and strongly advised the Iraqis not to invite the UN. Waste, inefficiency, corruption and incompetence were cited as reasons. One particularly civic-minded Bosnian was infuriated that the UN refused to observe the strict conservation regulations in order to maintain a luxury lifestyle in the local hotels.

tdatk 12-28-2004 04:46 PM

Once again the global community shows their collective asses in the love (your money) hate relationship with the US.
tisk tisk...One day we should learn from our mistakes and do nothing but point fingers and sit it out.

Moneyguy1 12-28-2004 06:03 PM

Good reason to stay with the UN is contained in a proverb often credited to the Russians:

"Keep your friends close, and your enemies even closer".

Wrecked944 12-29-2004 08:35 AM

Better question: Why does the USA put up with Donald Trump's bad excuse for a comb-over?

red ufo 12-29-2004 08:50 AM

Name a country that sent money after all the FL hurricanes?

But 15 million is nothing when the world knows the US spends 6 billion a month on Iraq. Mike Tysons makes more money if he loses a fight than that.

News is Bush only has 15 more tumbleweeds to clear, then a few rounds of fishing and he'll parrot some text Rove told him to say.

Serge914 12-29-2004 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by red ufo
Name a country that sent money after all the FL hurricanes?


Sending money to Florida is like sending snow to the eskimos; we prefer to send you water bombers when California is burning.

Mike Andrew 12-29-2004 09:17 AM

Yes, where was the undersecretary pinhead when Florida was being pouned? I don't recall him taking the rest of the world to task for not pouring massive amounts of aid into the region. Hell, I don't recall a single mention of any nation sending any form of aid to help people who had lost everything.
I'm personally sick of this SH_T ! Screw the rest of the world; a bunch of ungrateful, short memoried bastards tht only need us for our money or military might. What do we get in return? Squat.
Let these UN a-holes take care of the world's problems on their own & keep our money for ourselves. God Dam them all.


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