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ronin 01-07-2005 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SteveStromberg
BOX ON LAST PAGE:

This consular protection guide is not promoting the crossing [of the border] of Mexicans without legal documentation required by the government of the United States; its objective is to make known the risks implied and to inform about the rights of migrants regardless of their legal residence.

that's a riot! kinda like a book on how to make your own dirty nuke with a disclaimer on the first page stating that the book is "for informational purposes only" ;)

red ufo 01-07-2005 01:28 PM

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pbs911 01-07-2005 01:51 PM

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Yellowbird RS 01-07-2005 09:08 PM

As a mexican, I agree that both Mexican and US government should take more determinant actions. If this comic book which instead of making me laugh it embarrasses me about my authorities, I see it as an answer and a propagandistic medium of mexican governemet to erase the bad image they left allowing the US border patrol to shoot illegals with rubber bullets the past year .
I think that if there would exist a real interest of the US government about ending this situation, the solution is so simple, that it was already said above: jail for those american citizens employing illegal people. At the same time, Mexico could also punish with prison to any person who in an illegal way (without a passport) would abandon our country, because that is what a passport is for: a permission to leave your own country.
In the other side, the second income Mexico receives, after oil, is the money that those illegal workers send to our country.
Being sincere, the construction, agricultural, and several other services industries are covered by the very cheap hand labor, and more than eight hours shifts of mexican workers.
I remember on september 2003, when in WalMart several thousands of immigrants without papers were detected, and the fine for the employers was less than what a divorce in California would have cost.
At the present time, the only thing you need to obtain the US residence, is to invest one million dollars and prove that you have the sufficient capital to keep on bussiness for three years. They do not find out where the money comes from, neither if you speak English or not, nor anything. You just have to have the money.
The american banks are full of mexican savers, and they do not even ask where the money comes from. They just don't care.
That shows us that the US governement is not really interested in fixing these problems. The US tolerates a lot of situations too.
When a US citizen comes to Mexico, they can travel without a passport, visa, or nothing. A driver's licence, or the school ID card is enough. And there are many US citizens working here in Mexico too, illegally. In other words, this ashaming booklet is the same book with hard leather cover which year after year I receive from the american banks and from other financial institutions giving non-US citizens instructions not to pay taxes in the US and what to do to avoid taxes in your own country.

Moneyguy1 01-07-2005 10:40 PM

And just what, precisely,is the Presdent's stand on immigration from South of the Border?

SteveStromberg 01-08-2005 05:29 AM

State lawmaker pushing for tougher immigration laws
 
PHOENIX - A state lawmaker said he plans to introduce a bill to ensure undocumented immigrants don't receive such benefits as unemployment pay, government loans, grants, public housing and food assistance.
Rep. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, was one of the main backers of Proposition 200 that voters passed in November.

Pearce believes legislation is necessary because of pending court battles that could permanently narrow the scope of the anti-immigration measure.

The bill will not be tied directly to Proposition 200, thereby avoiding the required three-quarters vote of both the state House and Senate to change a voter-approved initiative.

Pearce will also pursue legislation denying undocumented immigrants the chance to post bail when they commit a serious crime.

Another bill would allow local police officers to cooperate with immigration authorities, a practice cities like Phoenix prohibit in such cases as routine traffic stops and domestic-violence calls.



http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/breaking/010705_immig_laws.html

Shaun @ Tru6 01-08-2005 06:48 AM

Re: Mexico makes huge mistake with booklet on how to illegally cross border
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SteveStromberg
Yet there's no other way to explain a how-to comic book that the Mexican government is passing out.


The intent of this booklet has been grossly misunderstood. Inside sources say it's actually a report on illegal immigration requested by Bush and the authors simply put it in comic book format so he could understand it.

SteveStromberg 01-08-2005 08:43 AM

Mexican Charged with Assaulting American at First Data/Western Union's Immigration Fo
 
Denver....A Mexican national charged with assaulting an American woman during an immigration forum held in Denver last July by First Data Corporation/Western Union has filed a counter lawsuit in Denver District Court claiming she was the victim in the assault.

Julissa Molina Soto, 32, is charging Terry Graham with assault and battery, extreme and outrageous conduct, and malicious prosecution, seeking damages from Graham for alleged severe emotional distress, economic losses, and attorneys fees.

Molina Soto is scheduled to appear in Denver District Court on January 12 to enter a plea in the criminal charges against her for assaulting Terry Graham during at the forum. Denver immigration attorney Jeff Joseph is representing Molina Soto in the criminal case.

Denver police arrested Molina Soto immediately following that assault. No criminal charges were filed against Graham, who filed a civil lawsuit against Molina and other defendants last October. Molina Soto pled guilty to child abuse in 1999.

"Molina Soto's countersuit is clearly a legal strategy to divert attention from criminal charges filed against her by the Denver District Attorney as well as our civil lawsuit," said Denver attorney Robert J. Corry, Jr., Graham's lawyer. "We are confident, based upon the facts, that Soto's counterclaim will ultimately be dismissed," he said. Frank Moya is representing Molina Soto in the civil lawsuit.

While Graham was being seen by paramedics, First Data Foundation Director Polly Baca and ACLU lawyer Adrienne Benavidez assured the forum's largely Latino audience from the podium that Molina Soto would have legal representation.

Graham, who was participating in the forum from the audience, was seated alone in Denver's North High School auditorium when Molina Soto entered the aisle and began threatening her for statements she was making in support of the enforcement of immigration laws. When Graham continued to engage forum panelists, Molina Soto grabbed her tape recorder and proceeded to assault her, knocking her to the ground. Graham suffered head and neck injuries, as well as numerous bruises in the attack.

First Data Corporation has taken the lead in promoting massive immigration and immigrants' rights -- including illegal aliens -- since settling lawsuits charging that its subsidiary, Western Union, failed to disclose unreasonably high commissions it charged when wiring customers' money to Mexico. In March 2004 First Data/Western Union set up a $10 million "Empowerment Fund" to be used for Latino and pro-immigration causes. First Data CEO Charles Fote announced last April that $800,000 of the Empowerment Fund would be used to create a Denver pilot program to support and increase the number of Latino business owners.


http://www.americanpatrol.com/CO_COLORADO/FREE-SPEECH-FORUM/MexCounterSue050108CO_.html

SteveStromberg 01-08-2005 08:46 AM

ICE DEPORTS TEENAGE HONDURAN GANG MEMBER
Gang sexually assaulted 2 girls in suspected initiation rite at vacant Maryland apartment


WASHINGTON, D.C.—A 17-year-old Honduran citizen and MS-13 gang member convicted as an adult for participating in the sexual assault of two teenage girls in Maryland was deported today by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Reinaldo Ramos-Ramos, an illegal alien who entered the United States in June 2002 by crossing the Southwestern border, was one of 10 gang members who sexually assaulted the minor girls, ages 16 and 17, inside a vacant Adelphi, Md. apartment March 14, 2003.

The assaults might have been a savage gang initiation rite that calls for female gang prospects to either endure being "jumped in" through a beating by gang members, or be "sexed in" by multiple male gang members.

Ramos-Ramos was convicted as an adult July 26 in the circuit court of Prince George’s County, Md. of 2nd Degree Sexual Offense. He was sentenced to 18 months time-served in an adult correctional facility. Upon his release from prison, Ramos-Ramos was turned over to ICE and processed for deportation to Honduras.

During fiscal year 2004, which ended Sept. 30, ICE detention and removal officers from Baltimore deported 2,782 criminal aliens, a five percent increase over FY-03. The office removed 4,115 aliens during the year as part of ICE's record year of deportations. ICE removed 157,281 aliens from the United States in FY-04, which is 12,000 more than the year before. Of those removed, nearly 53 percent were criminal aliens.

http://www.ice.gov/graphics/news/newsreleases/articles/010505teenagegang.htm

SteveStromberg 01-08-2005 08:55 AM

Tougher laws eyed for alien workers
 
A senior House Republican yesterday called for an improved Social Security card to prevent illegal immigrants from gaining jobs and for quintupling the penalty for those who employ them, marking the first major shot in the immigration debate expected to take place in this Congress.
Another Republican committee chairman, meanwhile, is set to introduce a bill that would include some of the measures like national standards for driver's licenses that were dropped from the intelligence overhaul bill that passed Congress late last year, but which House leaders have promised to attach to the first must-pass piece of legislation.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20050106-120233-9453r.htm

SteveStromberg 01-08-2005 10:36 AM

New law allows deportation of naturalized US citizens
 
WASHINGTON, Jan 5: A new intelligence law, and now a court ruling, have further strengthened the US government's power to strip a person of his citizenship even if he committed the crime after naturalization.

A federal appeals court on Tuesday allowed the government to strip a Haitian-American restaurant owner of his citizenship even though he was indicted, arrested and convicted after naturalization.

Also on Tuesday, federal agents in Atlanta arrested a prominent Ethiopian human rights abuse suspect and put him in deportation proceedings, for the first time using legal powers granted under a newly-signed intelligence reform law.

Immigration lawyers say that the two developments can have far-reaching consequences for thousands of immigrants from Muslim countries who already complain that they have become terror suspects since the Sept 11, 2001 terrorist attacks believed to have been carried out by Muslim men.

A large number of Muslim immigrants, including hundreds of Pakistanis, have been deported since 9/11 but most of them were visitors, guest workers and green card holders. Naturalized American citizens were deported only if they were found guilty of having lied in their naturalization applications about a criminal record.

But the 11th US Circuit Court of Appeals has now allowed the government to revoke the citizenship of Lionel Jean-Baptiste, originally a Haitian national, and start deportation proceedings against him.

The precedent-setting case marks the first time in the court's jurisdictional area that the government is seeking to revoke the citizenship of a naturalized person who was indicted, arrested and convicted after becoming a citizen.


http://www.dawn.com/2005/01/06/top11.htm

SteveStromberg 01-09-2005 04:58 PM

Illegal immigrants inundate hospitals
 
New Jersey's escalating population of illegal immigrants is placing an ever-growing burden on the state's hospitals, which expect to lose $200 million this year on care to the underground community.

Doctors and administrators around the state are complaining that the cost of treating illegal immigrants has forced them to delay the purchase of life-saving technology or the addition of valuable staff.

And according to the New Jersey Hospital Association (NJHA) in West Windsor, the burden will only increase unless state or federal agencies step in and pay the bills.


http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/base/news-2/1105261605299220.xml

SteveStromberg 01-22-2005 07:56 AM

The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave
 
So they just come here to work? Tell that to the victims of their crimes.


The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave
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Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens. Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gangbanger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law.

The LAPD’s ban on immigration enforcement mirrors bans in immigrant-saturated cities around the country, from New York and Chicago to San Diego, Austin, and Houston. These “sanctuary policies” generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities.

Such laws testify to the sheer political power of immigrant lobbies, a power so irresistible that police officials shrink from even mentioning the illegal-alien crime wave. “We can’t even talk about it,” says a frustrated LAPD captain. “People are afraid of a backlash from Hispanics.” Another LAPD commander in a predominantly Hispanic, gang-infested district sighs: “I would get a firestorm of criticism if I talked about [enforcing the immigration law against illegals].” Neither captain would speak for attribution.

But however pernicious in themselves, sanctuary rules are a symptom of a much broader disease: the nation’s near-total loss of control over immigration policy. Fifty years ago, immigration policy might have driven immigration numbers, but today the numbers drive policy. The nonstop increase of immigration is reshaping the language and the law to dissolve any distinction between legal and illegal aliens and, ultimately, the very idea of national borders.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

SteveStromberg 01-23-2005 10:18 AM

Prop 22 has started a movement across the country
 
Well it looks like the Corrupt Mexican Govt is crying over the law that will make sure that only US citizens are getting Govt services.

I guess with the safety valve shut off the people of Mexico may just be able to throw out the Corrupt officials and use the resources of Mexico to better their lives.


http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0123Prop200.html



New migrant law irks Mexico
Leaders bash Arizona as other states consider measures

Chris Hawley
Republic Mexico City Bureau
Jan. 23, 2005 12:00 AM

MEXICO CITY - For months, Arizona's Proposition 200 evoked nothing but yawns among Mexican media and politicians. But in the weeks since it became law, the measure has started raising hackles nationwide.

The Foreign Ministry, opposition lawmakers, newspaper columnists and even the head of the national human rights commission have lashed out publicly at Arizona since late December, when a federal judge lifted a temporary restraining order and allowed the measure to become law.

The Foreign Ministry has issued three rare statements denouncing the measure, and the leftist Democratic Revolutionary Party has urged President Vicente Fox to withdraw his ambassador from Washington, D.C., in protest.



"This law provokes a xenophobic attitude, a discriminatory attitude," said Eliana Garcia Laguna, a Democratic Revolutionary Party lawmaker who has become one of the most vocal opponents of Proposition 200.

"It is very bad for the Mexico-U.S. relationship."

Proposition 200 is being challenged in a federal appeals court. Its rules are similar to Mexico's own immigration laws, but opponents in Mexico fear it could ignite a harsher anti-immigration backlash in bigger states such as California and Texas.


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