Stop sending aid to Banda Aceh

[SteveStromberg]

"Allah will not love us without also testing our love for him," he said. "Maybe this disaster was because we have forgotten him and his teachings and failed to implement [Islamic] Shariah law."

Top cleric: Failed Muslims brought disaster
In first Friday prayers, tsunami tied to Allah's punishment

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Posted: January 8, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

The preacher at the main mosque in tsunami-devastated Banda Aceh, Indonesia says the Dec. 26 catastrophe might have been punishment from Allah for "forgetting him and his teachings."

Preaching at the first Friday prayers since the tsunami, Din Syamsuddin, the head of Indonesia's Council of Clerics, told about 2,000 worshippers they may be responsible for the disaster, which killed more than 100,000 on the island of Sumatra, according to the Associated Press.


"Allah will not love us without also testing our love for him," he said. "Maybe this disaster was because we have forgotten him and his teachings and failed to implement [Islamic] Shariah law."

In Banda Aceh, a center of radical Islam, as many as 40,000 people are feared dead in a city of about 400,000.

The Muslim cleric preached at the centuries-old Baituraman mosque, among the many that has functioned as a morgue, refugee camp or emergency health clinic.

About 800,000 Indonesians need emergency aid, according to the United Nations.

"We Muslims are gathered here today to show the country and the world that we still exist," Syamsuddin said. "We are sad and we are in mourning, but Allah tells us to be optimistic."

[SteveStromberg]

Its Arse wipes like this that want to kill all the Christans and Jews.

Fuch them let the mulslim countries send aid.

[cool_chick]

Um this is a tough topic. What you're reading is really a small fragment of the general population.

Plus, remember to combat terrorism, force is not enough. Root causes and changing the mindset are equally if not more valuable.

I say take this opportunity to start changing the mindsets/trends and lets seize the opportunity to turn this hatred towards us around.

[SteveStromberg]

At the risk of making angry, all of the people who indiscriminately write checks to charities in search of absolution for their own sins...I submit that the nation of Thailand should not receive any tsunami-aid, as long as the government allows child-prostitution.

The Thai government not only looks the other way in regards to child-prostitution, but actually promotes the practice as a reason for tourists to visit. The Tourism Authority of Thailand used as their 1987 slogan the phrase: "The one friut of Thailand more delicious than durian (a native fruit)--it's young women." A 1992 Thai travel advertisement depicted a traveler's postcard with the message: "Got to close now. The tarts in the Bangkok Baby Club are waiting for us."

Thailand is a child-molester's paradise. ****et is especially rife with brothels catering to the pedophile. That is precisely why there were so many European tourists in that town, on the day of the tsunami disaster. European 'sex-tourists' have become a major source of income for Thailand.

Many European businessmen while on a trip to Asia, stop off in Thailand before returning home. They do not make a detour for the chicken with peanut sauce, but for the chance to romp about Thailand's many red-light districts. Where else could one go to openly have sex with a ten year old boy or girl, without fear of prosecution? It is in fact, a sexual-deviant's dream vacation.

UNICEF estimates that there are 250,000 children being held in Thailand's sex-slavery industry. U.S. aid to Thailand should come with the condition, that the practice of child sex-slavery come to an immediate end.

http://americandaily.com/article/6424

[cool_chick]

Originally posted by SteveStromberg
At the risk of making angry, all of the people who indiscriminately write checks to charities in search of absolution for their own sins...I submit that the nation of Thailand should not receive any tsunami-aid, as long as the government allows child-prostitution.

The Thai government not only looks the other way in regards to child-prostitution, but actually promotes the practice as a reason for tourists to visit. The Tourism Authority of Thailand used as their 1987 slogan the phrase: "The one friut of Thailand more delicious than durian (a native fruit)--it's young women." A 1992 Thai travel advertisement depicted a traveler's postcard with the message: "Got to close now. The tarts in the Bangkok Baby Club are waiting for us."

Thailand is a child-molester's paradise. ****et is especially rife with brothels catering to the pedophile. That is precisely why there were so many European tourists in that town, on the day of the tsunami disaster. European 'sex-tourists' have become a major source of income for Thailand.

Many European businessmen while on a trip to Asia, stop off in Thailand before returning home. They do not make a detour for the chicken with peanut sauce, but for the chance to romp about Thailand's many red-light districts. Where else could one go to openly have sex with a ten year old boy or girl, without fear of prosecution? It is in fact, a sexual-deviant's dream vacation.

UNICEF estimates that there are 250,000 children being held in Thailand's sex-slavery industry. U.S. aid to Thailand should come with the condition, that the practice of child sex-slavery come to
an immediate end.

http://americandaily.com/article/6424

You are correct, and you do have a point, but is the whole country engaging in this? Are all the people doing this? Or just a few really creepy people? What about the millions who don't?

[Bleyseng]

Damn, I thought it was the white sandy beaches my friends go there for!

As for the Islamic cleric, there is always some fool saying stupid stuff after a disaster. In the Wester world, we have had David K, and Jim Jones both real peaches.

This is a waste of a topic.

Geoff

[cool_chick]

I don't think it's a waste of a topic, many Americans are asking this. I just feel it's a perfect opportunity to start working on addressing the root causes.

[mikester]

Why don't you ask Steve who he would send aid to.

For the most part I think he may be as extreme as the islamic priest he's denouncing is.

He's got good enough points about Thailand though I don't think that every person who goes there is going there geared up for little boys and girls. The orient is rife with prostitution in general and the facts are that not every culture feels the way JudeoChristian culture does about Prostitution, not that I'm saying Child prostitution is in any way shape or form okay - it isn't and we should say something about it at least before we send them a ton of cash.

As a last and final note - don't be like me - don't feed the trolls.

[speeder]

You cannot tie emergency disaster relief to "changing govt. policy", WTF would you like them to do, get together in smoky room and end child prostitution in the next 24 hrs. so that the relief supplies can resume flowing in??

I agree that any form of child exploitation is despicable, (flaunting or lack of child labor laws is a much bigger problem, numbers-wise), but this week is not the time to suddenly sort that out after 100s of years of us looking the other way. Assclown.

[SteveStromberg]

Why Not it is actually the best time to do it.
We have the leverage right now.

[Zeke]

I am concerned that the relief money will be mismanged as if we gave it to Haliburton. They will have a surplus of money initially and corruption is wont. Later, after the US and the rest of the world has turned it's attention to the next items of interest, there won't be enough money and it will be life as usual.

Including the child prostitution. And the same miserable (by our standards) living conditions. My solution? Meter the money thru the UN or Red Cross. And, Steve, this would give more long term leverage for your agenda 'cause Denis is right.

[red ufo]

Hey Amerika is still making nukes, no country should have nothing to do with them until they stop.
Amerika is still making chemical weapons, countries should stop trading with them.
Amerika invaded a country and kill 100k. The Chinese and Russians should come and kick our ass out of there. ASAP.

[Zeke]

Where'd this guy come from? I better leave here again for a few weeks or I'm gonna get my ass kicked off the BBS.

[SteveStromberg]

A HARDLINE Indonesian Islamic group has attacked the presence of Australian aid workers in tsunami-devastated Aceh, as Labor raised concerns yesterday about their safety in the troubled province.


Firm ... Habib Rizieq Shihab of the Islamic Defender's Front / AP


Habib Rizieq Shihab, head of the Islamic Defender's Front (FPI), said Australian assistance in Aceh could herald the start of an East Timor-style intervention designed to secure independence for the troubled northern province.

The Australian Government insisted yesterday it had no interest in any military involvement in Aceh and played down a threat of confrontation with the growing number of Islamist relief workers also flooding into the area. John Howard, in an interview on global news network CNN, ruled out any involvement by Australian troops in peacekeeping or arming troops on the ground.

The Prime Minister said Australia was not interested in picking sides on Aceh, but was there "as a friend trying to give practical help".

"We're not there in a military role, it's just that our military are there in a humanitarian role," he said.

But Mr Shihab told The Australian he feared the presence of hundreds of Australian troops in Aceh would corrupt the province's strict Islamic culture.


http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11906092%255E401,00.html

[kach22i]

Last week we had someone here saying Christians have the last laugh on this disaster because Christian believers go to heaven and live forever.............all are others are dammed.

How is this so different than what this Islamic nut is saying?