H&K USP v. Beretta 92F?

[pwd72s]

Nobody remembers the Hi-Power? Oh well, to each his (or her) own, right?

[ChrisBennet]

Originally posted by pwd72s
Nobody remembers the Hi-Power? Oh well, to each his (or her) own, right?

A few mods and they are great. Love mine.
-Chris

[Shuie]

H&K and Beretta make fine pistols. A little too big for a 9mm, IMHO, but still nice and reliable. Someone could remove the slide of a loaded beretta from the muzzle end of the gun, but this BS story gets told in every gun shop that sells Berettas. The only guy who ever pulled that trick off without getting shot through the hand is the guy from the Lethal Weapon sequel.

Originally posted by pwd72s
Nobody remembers the Hi-Power? Oh well, to each his (or her) own, right?

oh, I remember it. Here's mine. With a few mods





The P-35 is fine piece. Used to be my favorite 9mm. However, its never left my safe since I bought my 1st CZ75. I never could readjust to the Hi Power after getting spoiled with the short and positive trigger reset of a 1911. There is no gun that fits my hand better than a BHP does. I just wish the trigger reset was shorter.

Glocks work. End of story.

For a 9mm, I'll take the CZ every time. There is always a CZ in my range bag. They would still be a best buy at twice the cost.

[SLO-BOB]

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[bluebullet]

my cousin collects all that sword stuff. Hes in the navy so he goes all over the place and brings back all this cool stuff.

They sell a lot of new version CZ75s (pre-b models them call them?) for like $500 or so. You cant find any of the first models with the longer slides. Those are the ones worth $$$.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally posted by Tricky D
My Beretta has jammed only once in over 3000 rounds - it was due to faulty ammo.

My Peacemaker has never jammed.

Remember: "smokeless powder is a passing fad".

[Tricky D]

Originally posted by Jeff Higgins
My Peacemaker has never jammed.

I know, I know. I just like having more than six rounds

[David]

I'd get the HK over the Beretta, but I'd get the Sig over the HK. I've never shot the Browning Hi Power, but the Brownings I've shot were pretty accuarate so I wouldn't rule them out. I'd second the recomendation for a larger caliber if you might use it for protection. My choice would be a .40 cal.

[araine901]

I have a USP .40 Love it. The 92 is too darn big in the hands. My USP shoots as good of groups easier than my 2K 1911 Springfield. Sigs are darn nice too. I hated my glock. Its a preference thing. You need to go to a range and shoot both of your choices (and some others too) and pick which you like. Or you can do what I do (and my wife hates) get the one you want more first and get the other later.

[azasadny]

I love my Beretta 92FS. Never jammed or misfired, very reliable and comfortable. The fit and feel of a gun is very subjective, so try each one before you make a decision.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally posted by Tricky D
I know, I know. I just like having more than six rounds

Actually, only five if you are carrying it. Always an empty hole under the hammer. Peacemakers are like cats; drop them from any height at any angle and they always land the same way. In this case, on the back of the grip frame and the hammer spur. Guess where the barrel is pointing. "Five beans in the wheel" is the motto. Word has it that the old timers carried their cash in the sixth hole. The idea was that if you made it past the first five, you might as well have what is in the sixth, too. I've tried it; it doesn't hold much. And it comes out all smelly.

[Nader]

Thanks for the info. Are the newer CZs less desirable than the earlier versions? Still worth auditioning?

I'm looking at 9mm for sport shooting. I'm proficient with a .22 Ruger Mk II, but it won't knock down metal targets at the local range. I don't need a larger caliber as I have no fantasies about taking down a home intruder. If I did, I'd git me a scattergun. Besides, my dog would get him first, anyway.

That being said, I tried a S&W .357 Magnum for the hell of it, and felt great. Like... a lot of horsepower. I wouldn't mind a revolver.

[Tricky D]

Originally posted by Jeff Higgins
Actually, only five if you are carrying it. Always an empty hole under the hammer. Peacemakers are like cats; drop them from any height at any angle and they always land the same way. In this case, on the back of the grip frame and the hammer spur. Guess where the barrel is pointing. "Five beans in the wheel" is the motto. Word has it that the old timers carried their cash in the sixth hole. The idea was that if you made it past the first five, you might as well have what is in the sixth, too. I've tried it; it doesn't hold much. And it comes out all smelly.

ROFLMAO!

Wasn't aware the Peacemakers landed like that - very informative. Thanks.

[bluebullet]

Originally posted by Nader
Thanks for the info. Are the newer CZs less desirable than the earlier versions? Still worth auditioning?

I'm looking at 9mm for sport shooting. I'm proficient with a .22 Ruger Mk II, but it won't knock down metal targets at the local range. I don't need a larger caliber as I have no fantasies about taking down a home intruder. If I did, I'd git me a scattergun. Besides, my dog would get him first, anyway.

That being said, I tried a S&W .357 Magnum for the hell of it, and felt great. Like... a lot of horsepower. I wouldn't mind a revolver.

The older designs where more sturdy and more accurate. The newer ones are still excellent but they changed it around some and made more of them. 1975 to 1980 Im assuming (first 5 years of production) Would be the best one to get. But with a CZ75 that age you dont buy it for shooting, you buy it to put it in a display case. They are worth loads of $$, while the newer ones can sell anywhere from $350 to $750 depending on condition.

[Groesbeck Hurricane]

Hands down, for me, Browning makes the finest 9mm I have ever shot. I still prefer the 1911 for use, accuracy, and stopping power. The S&W is the worst and I've heard issues with the Taurus. We also have forgotten Ruger, which makes ambi semi-autos.

Safety issues with the Glock and the safety are well noted, but my wife LOVES hers!!

Why not a revolver? Simple safety mechanisms, very rare that one will ever jam, if you don't hit what you are trying to in less than three shots it will probably not ever matter to you again.

All firearms must be kept clean. The Beretta requires a very clean piece to fire well consistently.

[Milu]

If you want to knock down metal plates or bowling pins I would suggest big and slow like a 45acp and personally I would choose single action. Try an accurised 1911 or a used Detonics Scoremaster.

[ChrisBennet]

Like Milu said, big and slow works great on plates and especially on pins. The lower velocity also makes for less lead deposits in the bore when using less expensive lead (vs jacketed) bullets. The .45 and if you handload, the .44 magnum (downloaded) work great.
Back when I kept track of such things, the .40 cal. was not known for it's accuracy, perhaps things have changed.
For the money spent a revolver will generally be more accurate. I used to really enjoy beating guys who were shooting 1911 "race guns" with my stock revolver.
I've had and shot several S&W revolvers that were tack drivers and others that spit lead out the side and had poor accuracy. If you can buy one used with a return guarantee that would be best IMO.
-Chris

[SLO-BOB]

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