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turbo6bar 03-08-2005 06:07 PM

As a landlord, I have to deal with material issues on a regular basis. I refuse to use places like HD/Lowe's for major material supply. This includes ceramic tile, paint, carpet, major landscaping, and roofing. I DO use HD/Lowe's for minor plumbing supply, misc electrical, and some lumber. I would never even think of using these jokers for labor/installation.

There are many mom and pop specialty supply stores that would love to have your business. Sometimes you pay less, and sometimes you pay more, but the hassles are magnitudes lower. I can hash out enough stories to make the head spin.

Sorry to hear about the troubles. Hope things get straight soon.
jurgen

Saintly 03-08-2005 07:15 PM

good luck... fingers crossed

legion 03-09-2005 04:36 AM

T-minus three hours...

I got a call last night from the flooring manager. He's going to be coming to my house with the contractor to personally supervise the installation.

Big Ed 03-09-2005 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by turbo6bar
There are many mom and pop specialty supply stores that would love to have your business. Sometimes you pay less, and sometimes you pay more, but the hassles are magnitudes lower. I can hash out enough stories to make the head spin.
Word.

I regularly rehab properties as a side activity, and used HD or Lowes to get the lowest prices, so I thought. A couple times I used local building supply shops as a matter of convenience, and was shocked to see that prices were basically similar on true building materials (some lower, some higher, but generally on a par). AND, I walk to the counter, never more than 2nd in line, they deliver the materials on site for free, are helpful when I have a problem, etc etc etc.

Needless to say, I've changed my thinking on the subject.

legion 03-09-2005 05:31 AM

This is certainly a lesson I learned the hard way. This town has a well-established group of independent skilled professionals (plumbers, contractors, etc...). They obviously have something the big boxes don't as they manage to stay very profitable. That said, I never posted the problems I was having with drywall contractors pryor to this. It ended up taking so long to get a contractor lined up that I had finished the work myself before I found someone. I had one promising to fax me his estimate "in five minutes" for 3 weeks!

bryanthompson 03-09-2005 05:38 AM

Take some pictures of the install for us :D It'll drive them nuts with you "documenting" everything. They deserve a little prodding.

legion 03-09-2005 07:46 AM

They just showed up--14 minutes late. I suppose that's pretty good by contractor standards.

I've got plenty of "before" pictures, I'll take some "after" pictures tonight. Hopefully I can get them posted tonight (assuming I can get my home computer put back together).

legion 03-09-2005 11:09 AM

Just got off the phone with the wife. They're actually installing!

The people at Lowe's keep telling me that they're going to give me money back to compensate me for my troubles. I figure since I didn't have the use of my house for two months, I should ask for half of two month's mortgage payments. I also thought since I wasted six hours of vacation on the two previous install dates, they should pay me six hours of my hourly wage. I added it up, and it comes out to $125 more than I spent on the carpeting.

legion 03-10-2005 04:37 AM

We finally have carpeting!

The installer was there until 5:30, which means the installation took roughly 7 hours, not the 3-4 I was originally quoted. How can you be so off? Oh, well, at least it was installed right.

I thought it was very nice of the installer to leave the scraps piled up in my laundry room, bloody fingerprints on my toilet, and not to vacuum when he left--but at least these were things I could correct.

I'll post pictures tomorrow. We're still getting the downstairs put back together and I didn't get to the computer last night.

Porsche-O-Phile 03-10-2005 05:46 AM

You shouldn't complain so much. . . I for one would LOVE to be able to afford a house, even half of one.

legion 03-10-2005 06:31 AM

Move here to Bloomington, you could probably get a 6,000+ sq. ft. house for a mortgage payment that is less than your current rent payment.

legion 03-19-2005 11:18 AM

Pictures...finally
 
My wife left the digital camera at work for a whole week, so I couldn't upload the pictures...

The before picture:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111262157.jpg

legion 03-19-2005 11:19 AM

The during pictures:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111262357.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111262408.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111262479.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111262530.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111262592.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111262670.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111262748.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111262825.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111263045.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111263090.jpg

legion 03-19-2005 11:19 AM

After Pictures:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111263329.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111263365.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1111263401.jpg


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