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mikester 03-05-2005 05:08 AM

What ever happened to the apology?
 
Just asking...

Every day we are inundated with stories of one person or another sueing somebody else.

What ever happened to the apology?

I know I'm not too big to apologize when I'm wrong.

Recently I read this article:

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/articles/1337847.html

Here's a little text though:

"A religious group filed a federal lawsuit Friday against the Manhattan Beach school district on behalf of two parents who claim they've been barred from hanging decorative ceramic tiles in the shape of a cross on an elementary school wall.

The Scottsdale, Ariz.-based Alliance Defense Fund alleges the Manhattan Beach Unified School District infringed on the free speech rights of parents Don and Meagan Burrows, who arranged the tiles several months ago during a campus fund-raiser at Pacific Elementary School."

Now, this seems pretty minor to me and if they offended these people wouldn't it be prudent and acceptible for the School Board member who made the decision to simply apologize? Is a lawsuit with damages awarded really needed? This is just one example - I'm sure there are others we could easily find in the news.


We teach our kids that when they do something wrong they should apologize but when we as adults do something wrong it seems that more and more we turn to the courts. Whiskey tango foxtrot.

I mean "come on!"

SmileWavy

Moses 03-05-2005 06:16 AM

Last year a 14 year old kid stole something valuable from my son at school. I called his mother who reassurred me that her son would return the item the next day. I told her that was great, but my son required an apology as well. She said she did not think it was reasonable to subject her son to the humiliation or an apology. I told her that was fine, but without the apology, the theft would be reported to the local sheriff. She replied "But your son is getting his stuff back!" I reminded her that the primary role of the sheriff in these cases was not to recover stolen goods, but to apprehend the thief." My son got his apology.

CarreraS2 03-05-2005 06:48 AM

I can't believe you did that!

That's really gonna hurt the thief's self esteem.

928ram 03-05-2005 08:22 AM

When I was 14, if I'd have stolen something, the apology, police, self esteem would be the very least of my worries; it'd be dear 'ole Dad that I'd be worried about.

That woman probably apologized to the kid for making him act like a man.

cstreit 03-05-2005 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moses
Last year a 14 year old kid stole something valuable from my son at school. I called his mother who reassurred me that her son would return the item the next day. I told her that was great, but my son required an apology as well. She said she did not think it was reasonable to subject her son to the humiliation or an apology. I told her that was fine, but without the apology, the theft would be reported to the local sheriff. She replied "But your son is getting his stuff back!" I reminded her that the primary role of the sheriff in these cases was not to recover stolen goods, but to apprehend the thief." My son got his apology.

You did him a favor Moses.... I'm afraid too many kids these are never going to know what it's like to be a man.

tabs 03-05-2005 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moses
[B. She said she did not think it was reasonable to subject her son to the humiliation or an apology. [/B]
Is it any wonder that her son is a thief?

lendaddy 03-05-2005 09:02 AM

I told you already, I'm NOT sorry. Your bulbouse head WOULD have stretched out the neck hole of my finely knit sweater.

speeder 03-05-2005 09:26 AM

Good for you, Moses. That lady needs to learn the sound of one hand clapping. It's one hand and one face. :cool:

Don Ro 03-05-2005 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moses
Last year a 14 year old kid stole something valuable from my son at school. I called his mother who reassurred me that her son would return the item the next day. I told her that was great, but my son required an apology as well. She said she did not think it was reasonable to subject her son to the humiliation or an apology. I told her that was fine, but without the apology, the theft would be reported to the local sheriff. She replied "But your son is getting his stuff back!" I reminded her that the primary role of the sheriff in these cases was not to recover stolen goods, but to apprehend the thief." My son got his apology.
Good for you. And good for your son to have that modeled for him.
Another episode to help offset the massive parenting crisis in this culture.
Far too many youngsters are entering adulthood under the influence of cognitive and moral deficit due to the gov't school system, this culture's relative/situational moral code, and having adult-children as parents.
The unevolved ego views the virtue of Humility as inferiority.

oldE 03-05-2005 11:21 AM

Moses,
Good work in making the promise of action. However, with the 'young offender' laws, it would surprise me if there was any action against the thief. North of the border, we seem to be suffering a rash of crime from youth who have grown up within the framework of these laws and the lack of effective parenting at home.
My wife teaches middle school and is dismayed by the number of kids who have apparently learned in the first ten years of their lives, if they deny something long enough and strong enough, they won't have to suffer any consequences. For those, the year with her is a real eye opener! :D I'm afraid, as a generation, our parenting skills fall far below those of our parents.
Les

84porsche 03-05-2005 12:12 PM

Mike,

I agree with the apology thing and I only hope a judge sees the case as frivilous and throws it out.

Moses,

That is awesome. If parents would teach their kids that this stuff is wrong to begin with then we wouldn't have juvenile criminals and then even more dysfunctional adults. My dad told me as a kid that when he was in school if he did something wrong he would get hit from the teacher and if he went home and told his dad his dad would smack him too. While my dad didn't follow that, he did make sure that I knew right from wrong.

mikester 03-05-2005 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moses
Last year a 14 year old kid stole something valuable from my son at school. I called his mother who reassurred me that her son would return the item the next day. I told her that was great, but my son required an apology as well. She said she did not think it was reasonable to subject her son to the humiliation or an apology. I told her that was fine, but without the apology, the theft would be reported to the local sheriff. She replied "But your son is getting his stuff back!" I reminded her that the primary role of the sheriff in these cases was not to recover stolen goods, but to apprehend the thief." My son got his apology.
Moses never disappoints our expectations. Always a good role model.

DonDavis 03-06-2005 05:14 AM

Good for your Moses. And your son learned something as well....truth and morality. What a concept.



And James Spader dissin' George! One of my favorites. heh heh
Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
I told you already, I'm NOT sorry. Your bulbouse head WOULD have stretched out the neck hole of my finely knit sweater.


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