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StepVan (like a bread truck) Insurance......
When all else fails.... ask the Pelican gang!
I am about to buy a GMC StepVan. GVWR 10000. Diesel powered. Like a SnapOn truck, or a bread truck. No one in California or Nevada insures these. The vehicle is $3500. The premium for insurance personal use is $2K a year. One 50 yr old driver, secured parking, NEVER had an accident, No tickets (that stuck) for 36 years, NEVER a claim. My insurance premium for my 3 vehicles (including a 21,000 pound motorhome on the IDENTICAL chassis) AND 7 motorcycles is less than that combined. The motorhome premium is $600 a year. Yes, I thought of 'converting' it into a motorhome. But I still have to get it insured to register it. Anyone have any ideas or leads? Am discovering the only thing more scummy than the sewage outflow at Dockweiler is the trucking industry insurance brokers. God help anyone that ever has a run in with a trucker. |
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03-30-2005, 12:37 PM
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Looks like a bad class of vehicle. Not very safe with those sliding doors and often driven by minimum wage youth in a hurry..
Ad a folding cot and plastic bucket and tell them it IS a motorhome.. 
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Bring that puppy here to Phoenix, use my address and register it here!
I would also run it on "biodiesel" and laugh all the way to the bank! JoeA
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03-30-2005, 02:16 PM
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I run a vending company and our trucks are just under 10,000 GVW.
The laws are probably different for you but I would try the motorhome idea. The DOT likes to get their share as well as the insurance industry. Motorhomes are another story....
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03-30-2005, 05:19 PM
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Mess with Motorhomes and you tangle with the AARP. You dont want to pick a fight with those old codgers!
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03-31-2005, 05:41 AM
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Wow, why would the insurance be so high?
Maybe I need to re-think the track transporter idea I had - I was thinking of getting used bobtail truck and installing a car-transporter lift gate on it and outfitting it like a trailer.
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03-31-2005, 06:05 AM
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Talk to your insurance agent before you buy! From an underwriter's perspective, commercial vehicles are a tough risk.
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03-31-2005, 06:47 AM
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Well, I have been around every bend, and looked under every tree.
Bottom line, if I want the truck, I pays the premium. No one writes these as personal vehicles, so I get lumped in with every overloaded drug-running bread truck with a kid on streoids and bad brakes speeding towards a schoolyard full of gifted and talented children of tort attorneys on parents day and everyone has a videocam. Anyone need anything brought from the east coast to Califoirnia? Can weigh up to 8000 pounds.
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03-31-2005, 12:35 PM
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What are you going to use this thing for?
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03-31-2005, 01:09 PM
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Hauling my bikes and tools from the ranch in Nevada to the beautiful unspoiled megalopolis of LaLaLand. They have better canyons and beaches over there.
Strictly personal use.
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Singpilot,
A friend of mine runs the website linked below. While the site is for older GM's (pre '73), they have a Discussion Forum where folks with vans like yours may be able to help. I have a '73 International Harvester dump truck and the site has been very helpful. Best of luck. http://www.stovebolt.com/
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I think the thing to do is to get a motorhome with the a brand name / VIN number and strip it out. Sing, that will give you plenty of room, cheap insurance, and the ability to stay over at KOA!!
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04-01-2005, 06:17 AM
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OK, got it done.... Western Truck Insurance came thru. Got me down to reasonable. I am in Paris, Wednesday to TelAviv, back to NYC on the 10th. Pick up the van in Providence, RI, drive to Glens' Falls NY to pick up a bike (who knows anything about getting a NY title from a mechanics' lien? OS?) and then to Minneapolis to clean out my storeroom. Then cross country to LaLaLand with a governor set at 73MPH. Anyone need anything taken cross country?
Will keep y'all posted.
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Glad it worked out! Sounds like you are living like I am recently! Barcelona, Bermuda, Azores and back. Planning a trip to Geneve, Rome and Palermo then back through Bermuda again in a few weeks...
Take a GPS and radar detector on the trip. Even if you are not going to be driving that fast, they do help to let you know whats going on! Also a AAA card is a good backup! Needed it on my last "Denver to Phoenix" run! JoeA
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Sing, You're not rushing to CA to testify in the MJ trial are you ?
Everytime I hear about flight attendants at the trial I think of you. Your cross-country trip in a bread truck makes me think of Cheech and Chong. Have fun.
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Does sound like a ball, you need a copilot!
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I am in TelAviv resting after our Dubai run. Leave Saturday evening late. Stop in Brussels for fuel, then to Teterboro. Quick 8 hours in the hotel, up to Providence on a shuttle, and pick up the van. Glens' Falls for the bike, just south of Chicago for an exhaust system for another bike, then St. Paul for my storeroom.
Have a radar detector for the drive, but the truck has a governor set at 73. GPS is always in the briefcase. I was trying to see when Hershey is, and whether anyone needed anything brought from there. Watch for a red over white stepvan with Rhode Island plates and a brick on the gas pedal headed west all next week!
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Bring back some dark chocolate from Brussels, you will make friends at every stop.
Take lots of pictures on the way, sure it will be a drive you remember! JoeA
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