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rcecale 04-06-2005 11:54 AM

Another Reason To Learn The Language When You Move Here.
 
Deliveryman Stuck in Elevator for 3 Days
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An investigation on Tuesday determined that the security camera and alarm system in the elevator were working. But security officers told police they didn't hear or see Chen until security workers responded to his calls early Tuesday. Chen said his pleas using the intercom were answered, but that the language barrier was too great.

Randy

kaisen 04-06-2005 12:11 PM

That's hilarious!
From his picture he kinda looks like William Hung. Maybe he was singing "She Bang! She Bang!" into the intercom.

E

gaijindabe 04-06-2005 12:16 PM

The fact he is paying off a $60,000 debt to the "snakeheads" who got him here by working 80 hour weeks made it into only one account I read...

speeder 04-06-2005 12:28 PM

Does he get deported now? I missed that part.

rcecale 04-06-2005 01:56 PM

Denis,

I was curious about that one, myself. I don't believe the article stated.

Things that make ya go hmmmmmm...!

Randy

djmcmath 04-07-2005 06:50 AM

Help me out with some immigrant status here: is "undocumented" the same thing as "illegal?" Just curious...

All joking aside, I'm a little surprised that any elevator in a 38 story building could go 3 days without being repaired, with no serious complaints. Am I the only one who thinks that's ridiculous? What about the security guards answering him on the intercom? "Uh, we have a voice that we don't understand coming from the elevator that's broken. Say, where is that delivery guy -- didn't we order Chinese?"

Dan

gaijindabe 04-07-2005 07:20 AM

Welcome to public housing -about as well runs as eveything else in this crazy town..

rcecale 04-07-2005 07:22 AM

Dan,

I saw this story being related on the news yesterday evening. It seems that the elevator the guy happened to use is in a bank of elevators in this building that is rarely functional, so the fact that it wasn't working was nothing new. This poor guy just picked the wrong day to use this particular elevator.

I'm still curious myself as to his immigration status. Undocumented or illegal, it's all the same to me.

Randy

island911 04-07-2005 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by djmcmath
Help me out with some immigrant status here: is "undocumented" the same thing as "illegal?" Just curious...

. . .

"undocumented" is a liberal euphanism for "illegal." (as u know)

It's origin comes from the Liberal/Democrats wanting to secure a large uneducated (looking for a govt hand-out) voting base.

Disapointingly, Bush has also joined in, in enabling the influx of ILLEGAL immigrants. -sad-

I've certainly enjoyed the US culture, of pre-2000. Too bad it's slipping towards seperated language, and seperated cultures. What happened to "melting pot?"

Man, we're looking as screwed-up as Canada. :eek: merci boo-cuu; eh? ;)

ANyway, From what I've seen, legal immigrants look to meld in to our ideals. Whereas, illegal immigrants come to take and displace. (or worse - terrorists) . . .giving very little back to the existing culture.

stomachmonkey 04-07-2005 11:42 AM

Anyone consider what he used for a bathroom for 3 days?

Me thinks I smell a lawsuit coming.

Scott

coloradoporsche 04-07-2005 11:59 AM

Quote:

It's origin comes from the Liberal/Democrats wanting to secure a large uneducated (looking for a govt hand-out) voting base.
No, it comes from the republican base that wants cheap labor, which is why Bush will never get tough on illegal immigration.

As a Libertarian, I welcome hard-working people to this great country. Get rid of the free hand-outs and the problem is solved.

island911 04-07-2005 12:14 PM

"No, it comes from the republican base. . ." ("No" ?)

I just said the republicans ALSO have a hand in the problem.

As a Libertarian, you should recognise the problem on both sides of the isle.

bigrubberjeep 04-07-2005 12:29 PM

I'm with most of you on the imigration issue, however I don't see many "Sugestions" to a soltion on this thread.

A tougher border only makes for more creative ways of getting in. Kind of like the drug problem. You try and block one entrance and they create another.

So obviously closing the door is not the solution, so what is?

I think we just have to make it "unatractive" to be an illegal, maybe cut off all health, food and education freebees. Sooner or later the illegal will find ways to become legal or they end up getting deported. But at the same time, make it easier to become legal and enter the U.S. the coorect way, maybe show proof of education, clean criminal record and have some form of "sponsor" person in the U.S. that will be held accountable for any wrong doing you do in say a 5 year probation period.


That's some of the few things that I have heard suggested.

legion 04-07-2005 12:44 PM

That approach makes sense to me bigrubberjeep.

I consider myself a conservative with a twist of libertarian, but I've been disappointed with the Republican handling on several issues. Specifically, illegal immigration, the war on drugs, Terri Schiavo, and this whole thing about wanting the FCC to regulate cable.

dd74 04-07-2005 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigrubberjeep
I think we just have to make it "unatractive" to be an illegal, maybe cut off all health, food and education freebees. Sooner or later the illegal will find ways to become legal or they end up getting deported. But at the same time, make it easier to become legal and enter the U.S. the coorect way, maybe show proof of education, clean criminal record and have some form of "sponsor" person in the U.S. that will be held accountable for any wrong doing you do in say a 5 year probation period.



That would be the logical approach, however, there are lawyers and the ACLU who will actively dismiss this as a civil liberties and rights violation. They might also conclude that actions like cutting off health, food and education, is unprecedented, and in the end, just plain unconstitutional.

bigrubberjeep 04-07-2005 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dd74
That would be the logical approach, however, there are lawyers and the ACLU who will actively dismiss this as a civil liberties and rights violation. They might also conclude that actions like cutting off health, food and education, is unprecedented, and in the end, just plain unconstitutional.
So are you saying the rest of the world is in 'Violation" of these rights? I think we as a people just need ot bite the bullet and not worry about the "Initial" issues that might arise and focus on the long term goal. Just my 2cents though, I am no intelectual nor am I an economics expert to know if the suggestion is even feasable. It just sounds logical to me.

dd74 04-07-2005 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigrubberjeep
So are you saying the rest of the world is in 'Violation" of these rights?
I don't know. It depends on how their legal system is structured and what sort of rights groups other countries have. If the groups I mentioned earlier had a say in how other countries treat illegals/undocumented workers, I'm sure there'd be lawsuits based on civil rights world wide. Do I believe those suits are correct? No, I don't. There will come a time when - if it isn't already here - where something drastic will have to happen. This country needs to consider its citizens before those directly south of us.


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