In the future America will...........

[kach22i]

In the future America will..................produce no durable goods. We will make movies for the world (mostly porn) and export our lawyers to spread havoc and enslave the masses of unwashed heathens in binding contract law.

...............and we will never give up our guns and gas guzzling SUV's.

[Superman]

In the future, America will........recognize that education is the most important key to maintaining a competitive edge in a fiercely competitive, open world market. And gas guzzling SUV's will begin to disappear after America notices that the corporations with the largest earnings are running the country.....and changes are made to address that sickness.

.......and we will never ever give up our guns.

[targa911S]

I think your both right.

[legion]

I think you're both left.

[Dantilla]

Nothing more important than education? Creativity. This is still the land of opportunity. Thousands of Americans with little formal education have become millionaires. With a system that allows people to take a chance on an idea, to roll up their sleeves, work eighteen hours a day to get going, hire good people, pay them well, we get industrious companies like Pelican Parts that provide goods and services that I open up my wallet for because they make my life better.

In the future America will.....

1- either recognize what makes this country work and continue to be a world leader.

-or-

2- decide that equal opportunity is not fair, equal results are. And to acheive equal results we must regulate! It's not fair when someone has more than another, so we must play Robin Hood. Sounds nice in a pie-in-the-sky-sort of way, but the result is killing the human spirit to excell. Killing creativity. Killing true opportunity. Reducing this once great country to third world status as opening markets like China discover the incredible power of creativity.

[928ram]

Don't you guys have jobs?

[Dantilla]

I've got to go roll up my sleeves now....

[ronin]

Originally posted by Superman
And gas guzzling SUV's will begin to disappear after America notices that the corporations with the largest earnings are running the country.....

now what the hell does that mean??? that's about the weirdest, most nonsensical juxtaposition since the Mondale-Ferraro ticket!

and I see that you've relocated to the north a bit. looks like I'll have to track you down for a good ole asswhuppin'. you've had it coming for quite some time, boy!

how about a beer this weekend?

[Superman]

Originally posted by ronin
now what the hell does that mean??? that's about the weirdest, most nonsensical juxtaposition since the Mondale-Ferraro ticket!

and I see that you've relocated to the north a bit. looks like I'll have to track you down for a good ole asswhuppin'. you've had it coming for quite some time, boy!

how about a beer this weekend?

I've always admired dreamers.

Seriously though. I'm just not sure how you could not recognize what I'm reporting. While a sole proprietorship has the same legal identity as its owner, corporations are new, independent entitles separate from their owners. They are independent legal creatures in many respects. That's part of the advantage of incorporating. So, they are 'citizens' in a way. They file their own income tax forms, etc. But there is still an important difference. They don't vote.

But wait a minute. These creatures that don't vote most definitely have a stake in public policy formation. They're affected by legislation. And they have FORMIDABLE financial resources. So, they get involved in the process of making public policy. But they don't vote. They don't have to breathe the air or drink the water. Their decision-makers are legally bound to maximize profits in any way that is not illegal (usually).

Awe, nevermind. Let me just ask you this: Are you aware that corporations have a great deal of influence over Congress? I should just take this one step at at time but assuming you admit that Congress is powerfully influenced by corporations, then I'll ask whether you believe that corporate interests might ever be in conflict with whats' good for citizens. Here's a clue: Pollution. Why would a corporation, whose sole agenda is maximizing profits, ever become concerned about pollution? Except to avoid fines, or to avoid public disdain. And please don't pretend that the leaders of a large corporation might leave profits on the table in the interest of public health. They are not allowed to do this, if those profits (obtained by polluting) are there for the taking and are not illegal.

Oh, and I have a beer every weekend. At least one. I'd be honored if you would join me.

[kach22i]

Originally posted by Superman
Congress is powerfully influenced by corporations

I've seen the future at the movies......Bladerunner, Alien and so forth. There is no govenment of real power/importance anymore, everyone works for "the corporation" or is bound by the corporations terms of doing business as usual.

[vash]

......will continue to buy firearms, but will conduct the transaction in chinese.

[wludavid]

Originally posted by kach22i
I've seen the future at the movies......Bladerunner, Alien and so forth. There is no govenment of real power/importance anymore, everyone works for "the corporation" or is bound by the corporations terms of doing business as usual.

Red Mars and Green Mars are excellent examples of this type of future as well. Mega-Corps are really running the show and national governments are mere "flags of convenience." They are both excellent books. Blue Mars sucks ass though - don't waste your time.

[ronin]

soylent green is PEOPLE, dammit!!

oh, and Supe, you're on! gimme contact info

[Jamie79SC]

Ronin, Sup,

How about the Brick in beutiful Roslyn. I have to take Niki to Ellensburg for a few hours on Saturday and must find a place to drive (and drink beer) while she sings...

[Don Ro]

Originally posted by kach22i
There is no govenment of real power/importance anymore, everyone works for "the corporation" or is bound by the corporations terms of doing business as usual.

I often wonder what G. Bush is thinking when I see him with his eyes closed and seemingly praying - perhaps he's asking for our forgiveness?
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"One of the best books I have ever read is Samuel Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations." What it did for me was to set up the 'big picture' and outline why those who lead this nation – politicians and economic aristocracy alike – seem to be leading us over a historical cliff into the roiling sea."
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"Who are members of the Davos Culture? They are the same kind of elite there have always been: with lots at stake, much to lose, a yen for controlling and directing, as well as an overwhelming desire to remain the elite. That is human nature and the way the world has always worked. No conspiracy involved – simply arrogance combined with tunnel vision, money and power.
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http://newsmax.com/pundits/archives/Diane_Alden-archive.shtml

[TerryBPP]

in the future the world be be so poilitically correct that it will implode on itself killing us all.

...celebrities will be in control of the government.

[Eric 951]

You Finally did it!

[pwd72s]

Originally posted by Dantilla
Nothing more important than education? Creativity. This is still the land of opportunity. Thousands of Americans with little formal education have become millionaires. With a system that allows people to take a chance on an idea, to roll up their sleeves, work eighteen hours a day to get going, hire good people, pay them well, we get industrious companies like Pelican Parts that provide goods and services that I open up my wallet for because they make my life better.

In the future America will.....

1- either recognize what makes this country work and continue to be a world leader.

-or-

2- decide that equal opportunity is not fair, equal results are. And to acheive equal results we must regulate! It's not fair when someone has more than another, so we must play Robin Hood. Sounds nice in a pie-in-the-sky-sort of way, but the result is killing the human spirit to excell. Killing creativity. Killing true opportunity. Reducing this once great country to third world status as opening markets like China discover the incredible power of creativity.

BRAVO! WELL SAID!

[ronin]

Originally posted by Jamie79SC
Ronin, Sup,

How about the Brick in beutiful Roslyn. I have to take Niki to Ellensburg for a few hours on Saturday and must find a place to drive (and drink beer) while she sings...

sounds pretty good so far. perhaps I could catch a ride with Supe, as mine isn't ready yet

[wludavid]

Originally posted by Dantilla
Nothing more important than education? Creativity. This is still the land of opportunity. Thousands of Americans with little formal education have become millionaires.... companies like Pelican Parts that provide goods and services that I open up my wallet for because they make my life better.

*cough* MIT *cough*
http://www.pelicanparts.com/BMW/pelican/wayne.htm

Not disagreeing with you totally and certainly not slighting Wayne or PP. But let's not downplay the role of education - and by that I mean real education, not the grade-inflating ego-stroking that passes for it far too often in this country.