There were two cops at the scene. Both had a clear view of her hands. One held a cigarette, the other a cellphone. Were they worried that she was a kick-boxing champion that might suddenly go postal? Give me a break. Dealing with stupid rude people is a daily, maybe hourly event for police officers. You can't just whip out the Taze-O-Matic every time some traffic code miscreant rubs you the wrong way. Bad cop. No Donut.

I'm takin' a Taser to the supermarket Express Lane, and woe unto anyone with over 12 items...

Yup, and by the very heart of this statement the cop should know you don't have a clue about what goes on during a traffic stop. I'm curious, how many of them have you made?

LOL

great idea. :D

I think i'll use it on the next old woman in line who spends 5 minutes seaching for her damn "club card." (since they're so safe, and all :rolleyes: )

That's funny!

I wonder if I can borrow your taser to use on folks who change lanes without using a turn signal?

Or the people who block my driveway when they pick up their little Johnny from the school beside my house...

Better yet - on the neighbor who lets his doggie poop on my lawn. Not for the pooch, but for the human owner!

Of course, it would help slow down my competition at the next autocross too!

Okay, I can see how a taser can give you a sense of power...

-Z.

Complete the sentence;

I Tazed her because...

1) I didn't want her to get any overage charges on her cellphone.

2) She wouldn't put out her cigarette, and smoking is bad for her.

3) She called me a bad name.

4) She just looked like she needed a 50,000 volt attitude adjustment.

OMG what a drama queen she is.......

100% agree with the cops in this sitaution.

Do as you're told, and sort it out later.

"I was merely seeing if her inoperable brake light was truly burnt out, or just loose. 50,000 volts would do it."

OH-HO! :D. .. .and out comes the defense of "you don't know, so you can't have an opinion."

Ah yes, cops have a license to kill, since only cops can KNOW if it's justified. Every one else is to defer to the cops judgement ALWAYS, and/or just STFU. yyyyeeeeaaaaaahhhhh!

This about the first time I've agreed with anything Techweenie has said, but that woman in the supermarket line,,,,you know the one, she waits for everything to ring up. Then she asks what the amount is. Then she searches her purse for the checkbook. Then again asks what the amount is. Then she asks if that included her discount. Then she stops writing halfway to ponder paper or plastic. Then she starts writing again. Then she asks what the amount was. Then she finishes the check, but it rips when she tears it out of the checkbook. OMG!!!

WOW. Skins a little thin for so early in the day. Better get out your tazer.

Because then every liberal would be screaming that they used force to remove her from her car. She isn't the victim, she had already committed a crime, although minor, she then chose to make it worse on herself. If you don't like taser's, blame the liberals who defend the scum and make it harder for the police to do their jobs. If she had done as instructed, she wouldn't have been tasered, if the officers had tried to physically remove her, the same people who are whining about her being tasered we whining about her being dragged from her car, as she would have come out kicking & screaming. Cops don't want to get sued, and thanks to anti-American and racist groups like the aclu & naacp, their jobs are much harder as these groups don't care that the is a reason some people get arrested is that they committed a crime. Don't want to get tasered or shot, don't break the law and do what the cop says. Very simple, if you don't, you deserve what ever they do to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really?

When I see a cop take an uncooperative idiot, get physical control of them, put their hands behind their back and handcuff them, I think, "Job well done--way to HANDLE the situation."

There's something about a cop standing there administering electric shock that makes me think of torture instead. Not a great image. Not a good spin on police work. :(

Dude, you ought to get "teased" for using an auto-correct spell-checker. :cool:

You got me there, contacts are acting up and without them or my glasses (which are on the way) I can't see past my elbows:rolleyes:

Just to be clear. Driving with a suspended license is a Felony. Not a minor offense at all.

I was sweating bullets when I was pulled over knowing I was in serious trouble. The last thing on my mind was to give the cop a load of ***** for pulling me over, although, I honestly didn't do anything wrong to get pulled over. I was not speeding I just did not slow down for the turn and took it at the posted speed limit.

The cop fished and ran my tag and bingo! He had a reason to pull me over.

The cop tried to pull her from the car and was pushed away and swung at.

Some of you say he should have called for backup. Why? Boyton Beach is not exactly a really nice area. Would it really be necessary for 2 or more cruisers to waste their time on this. Then it would look like the cops were ganging up on her.

Two patrol cars to arrest a speeder/ unlicensed driver would be overkill. I think one car can handle it just fine. The only viable option would be to call in a woman to handle it.

I think the cops handled this just fine, trust me I do not like cops and their ticket writing at all, but, if pulled over basic respect for authority is needed. Rhis woman is just as example of how crappy society is today, if she has kids, I am willing to bet they are the ones mouthing off to the teacher and dirupting class.

"Schools restrict use of Tasers"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20050603/ts_usatoday/schoolsrestrictuseoftasers

..."In Miami-Dade County, Fla., schools Superintendent Rudy Crew was inundated with complaints from parents in October after a police officer used a stun gun on a 6-year-old student."........

If parents would teach their kids to show respect, and behave, there would be no issue here. This was a big issue here, the parents who had kids who behave in school aren't against teaser's being in schools, it is the ones whose kids are the trouble makers and don't/can't control them are the ones against it. At one local town hall meet a grandmother (always seems to be the ones raising these kids) talking about how her baby looked so helpless when he was tased while resisting arrest in a drug bust.

Yep, me too........THIS IS NOT A TOY.......no kidding.

To discharge it all the way down, drop a damp sponge on it to short it out.

Partial use, or no contact and then storage will set the stage for an accident.

I'm with RickM on this one:

"I have an issue with them zapping her (more than once) after she was on the ground. If they wanted her to put her hands behind her back then kneel down and do it manually. That was excessive and lazy, IMO."

And if she didn't assume the correct position when requested after being cuffed, would they have good reason to zap her again? And what if she spat or acted beligerant? Substitute the baton instead of Taser and see if that works for everyone.

Looking at this objectively and in hindsight, the first discharge could be rationalized. The second one could be excessive force (not needed). I think she and an attorney have a case.

Police work is difficult; gotta make the correct split-second decision. IMHO, their training under the circumstances was lacking.

Sherwood

You gotta be kidding. You really advocate tazing a 6 year old? Man, that's tough love Racerbvd. I bet you give new meaning to corporal punishment!

Just trying to imagine what 50,000 volts through a 6 year old would look like. I keep getting this mental image of trying to fly a kite in a hurricane. :eek:

My first impression would be to agree that the incident with the 6 year old was indeed excessive. It would have to be some pretty extenuating circumstances....can't really think of any off hand.

Randy

I have watched the video and read all of the replies. As a 16+ year cop, some of the replies that I have read are stunning! During training, all of us get tazed and pepper sprayed so we know how it feels. Getting tazed is no fun, but the pain goes away immediately once the volts are stopped. She was clearly exaggerating.

As far as tazing her, my Department would not have allowed us to use it in this scenario, nor would I as a supervisor. We would have used pepper spray. The extreme discomfort from pepper spray lasts 30-45 minutes. To tell you the truth, I would rather be tazed.

Police work is very different from what the average Joe thinks it is. We make very quick decisions that get judged with the luxury of time. Our very own celebrity Jack Olson went on a ride along with me in South Central LA not too long ago and we had a great time. He said he is going to write something up about the experience in the near future for the BBS.

In this great country of America, we are allowed the Freedom of Speech. In a forum like this, I think the diversity is an example of this.

DavidSmileWavy

What would of the harm have been if he waited another 3 minutes? She was trying to dis him - wait the beoytch out then get her outta the car, slap some cuffs on her and let her spend a night in the pookie with some bulldyke. Like the cop really had anything better to do...now he is looking at a really bad time and she comes out smelling like lylacs.

I bet she reminded him of his ex - I would have done the same thing but 45 seconds sooner if that was the case!

That was one of the funniest damn things I've seen in a long while. That woman got exactly what she deserved, needed and asked for. The officer gave her multiple warnings and she just flat out refused to comply. Oh yah - and what an actress. :rolleyes: Maybe being tazed will realign her brain and teach her to shut her pie hole next time she gets pulled over.

Scott :cool:

Ok. So...in these days of pro-active police tactics, all used under the guise of protecting the public, making sure the officer goes home at night, and keeping up PD morale, it seems the public needs protection from those sworn to protect and serve.

There are far too many unarmed citizens slaughtered every year "accidently". You read the stories, cop grabs a .45 instead of a taser, cop "thought" the perp. was armed, gun went off "accidently", etc. If police want to be pro-active and wave guns around for their protection, fine. I really want everybody to go home at night.

But, and it's a big but...I say if a cop kills an innocent, unarmed citizen for any reason, they stand murder charges automatically; and on their own personal dime. An innocent unarmed civilian should never die at the hands of an sworn officer, period. Each year I read of deer hunters charged with a crime after a hunting accident kills a fellow hunter. Shouldn't cops be held as accountable as the hunter that accidently shot his dad in the woods?

Kick down the wrong door and terrorize a family by mistake because cops got the house number wrong , lose your job and become a security guard. In other words, they need to be held accountable for their actions. Each and every time!

Just last week I heard a statistic about the 6xx cops killed on duty over the last X years. Where are the stats on how many unarmed innocent civilians were killed during the same time frame? Those, I'm afraid, the government and police officials aren't in a big rush to compare.

I believe cops lump citizens all into the same catagory...criminals who threaten their personal safety. Ok, but realizing that most citizens pose absolutely zero risk to cops and their most serious offense is a speeding violation, it shouldn't come as a suprise when citizens do the same thing and catagorize all cops in a similar fashion. We often read about abuses of power by those sworn to uphold the law, tazing 6 year olds, child molestation and rape, cops on the take, running drugs, broomstick sodomy, etc. Isn't it fair to make the same assumptions about cops as cops do to us?

That being said, I don't blame people who stand up and question authority, in fact I admire them. If there were more questions, there might be less police corruption and fewer civillian casualties.

Dan, most cops (I never say ALL) know that 99% of society are good, honest, hard working folk. There is no question about that at all. However, bad guys do not have a certain "look." Despite what you see in movies or TV, bad guys don't look like that convict with all the tattoos. In addition, sometimes good people with families do bad things. For example, a man and woman are married. He comes home from work early and unexpected one day and finds his wife with another man. He snaps and kills both of them. This has happened many, many times. Now the good guy is the bad guy.

David

This woman deserved to be tased. So be it...

Another stupid person who was obviously raised wrong by her dumb parents.....selfishness, lack of respect for authority.. just plain stupid person who got tased.

David,

I'd like to see a comparison of numbers. Sure, there have been cops killed on duty. But, how does that number compare to the number of needless civillian casualties over the same time period? Why do we never see that tossed about? Seems like I read in a book some years ago that a couple dozen a year get killed in LA alone. Not sure about that figure, tho.

And I do agree with "However, bad guys do not have a certain "look." Despite what you see in movies or TV, bad guys don't look like that convict with all the tattoos." **EDIT** However, this statement does complicate explaining away profiling, though.

But the fact remains that cops treat us all like criminals. While living in Texas and driving to work one morning, I was pulled over for an expired safety inspection sticker. Before he got out of the car, two more arrived on the scene with much fanfare and had me "triangulated" standing about with their hands on unsnapped guns. For God's sake, I was made to fell like the Unibomber over a $10 sticker. BFD. Guess Texas takes a dim view on screwing them out of ten bucks.

Bottom like is ordinary people are subjected to, at best, rude treatment if not public humilliation. I also believe that the backlash will continue against law enforcement across the country. My secretary is 62 and has a real issue with cops because of the way she was treated over a tinted window in a used car she bought from a dealer with the tint already installed.

Further, I still maintain that all sworn officers in any LEA must be held accontable for their actions and mistakes, whether it's the FBI at Ruby Ridge or those local off duty cops that gang beat that guy in Milwaukee not long ago. This stuff happens far too frequently and it needs to be addressed. Unfortunately it isn't.

Until then, if cops feel it's them against us, I pick us.


Dan

I've been pulled over at least half a dozen times in the past 10 years, and each officer was professional and respectful. I think some times cops go over the line, but I also think our attitudes towards cops goes a long way.

I finally got the video to load. He was a little quick for my taste. But the way she big-dealed it drove me nuts. I would have buried my boot in her a55 after 20 mseconds of the BS wailing, I'm not kidding either. Good thing I'm not a cop.

An Oakland Cop! I bow in respect:
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I saw the video yesterday on another website. I'm all for the way this went for the cop. The woman was being an idiot and acting like a 5 year old. She repeatedly refused his requests and later demands and even struck at the other officer. I think a big part of the problem is that as a cop you probably never know what you have on your hands. You never can really tell which person is a ticking time bomb. I've seen the videos where a seemingly normal seeming person snaps and assaults a cop or does something else stupid. I think cops get a bad rap. Yes they give tickets which piss us off, and there are undoubtedly bad cops, cops who abuse their power, etc.... But I've found that the majority of the cops that I've come into contact with (I've had plenty of tickets) have been decent guys just doing their job. I wouldn't, possibly couldn't, do their job. It's amazing that they keep their sanity as much as they do since they have to deal with the worst of society.

That woman needed something, to be jerked out of her car put face down and cuffed or tased. How did they know she might have hiv/aids, she might have had a weapon, a pen or pencil, a syringe with a used needle, a lit cigarette, anything that she could have lashed out with. I'd not want to get burned with a lit cigarette for a routine traffic stop of someone that is obviously a dumba$$.

When I get pulled over I say "yes sir," "no sir," and "thank you sir." Her behavior was ridiculous.