Cops Using Tasers - This Time It's A Woman...
 

WARNING! Although the video doesn't show a lot of detail, the audio more than makes up for it.

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Sgt. Sedrick Aiken, a training officer in the Boynton Police Department narrates the traffic stop, including the moment Officer Rich McNevin (in video) spots Victoria Goodwin's speeding Isuzu rodea and when he twice hits her with 50,000 volts with a Taser. Post reporter Dani Davies interviewed Aiken.
According to Aiken, McNevin correctly used the stun gun to subdue the driver instead of:
* using his baton
* Physically forcing driver out of SUV
* using pepper spray
* getting in SUV to handcuff driver

How do you feel about the use of tasers by members of law enforcement?

Personally, I think a taser is like any other "tool" used by law enforcement agents. If used with the proper discretion, they are totally acceptable. I would rather be hit by a taser than a baton or a bullet.

Randy

I could not be a police officer today!!!
What do people want, using deadly force? Cmon, people bit@## about getting shot while resisting, now they try non-lethal and they bit@## about that!!!
Oh wait, I have an idea...........DO WHAT THE POLICE OFFICER TELLS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ok, my rant is over.
thank you

I think the US gov't should stop complaining about other countries' human rights issues and re-examine their own conducts.

Oh Haha - agreed!

I don't know that much about tasers, but once shot burst is over, isn't the pain over too? If that's the case, then that woman -- what a drama queen! Cop says at one point, "It's over and done with. We've been tased before. We know it's not that bad." That's after quite a few minutes of this woman crying.

Love the comment, "I'm suing the s*** out of ya'll." She was driving with a suspended license, she failed to comply to the officers requests to get out of the car, and to put down her phone, and even after she was tased the first time, she still resisted. Not to mention the profanity she used.... Yeah, suing will work for her! :rolleyes:

-Z-man.

GOD I HATE COPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but on the other hand it seems like a scam from the women to get a nice settlement with the lawyer on the cell

Jeff964,

Before I go flying off the handle, are you implying by your remarks that the human rights of the woman in this video were somehow violated?

If so, please explain.

Randy

What crap. He should have taken the cellphone from her and lifted her out of the car. If she physically resists, Taze away. To use a Tazer on a small woman as a means to avoid physical contact seems thoroughly silly. I showed this video to my dad who was a 30 year Oakland cop and he felt the same way. Silly and unnecessary.

IMO, a tazer is an appropriate tool for subduing a completely out of control psycho from a safe distance. When they start using it on ordinary citizens (no matter how agitated) because it's more convenient than getting their hands dirty--that I have a problem with.

Most Police that I've had the privilege of interacting with understand the difference between a bad guy and a good citizen who perhaps has done something wrong. I've always assumed that good cops quickly became expert at "sizing people up" and using their experience and judgement. If the tazer allows them to avoid making that judgement, stand at a safe distance and zap anyone they like, it sounds like a tool that's ripe for abuse by lazy cops.

You mean...like radar/laser guns?

It's easier to sit in your car and look at a discreet number than to actually search for reckless drivers...

Moses, watch the first part of the video again. That is exactly what happened. He instructed her to put the cigarette out and to step out of the car. She refused. He opened the door and instructed her to put the cell phone down and step out of the car. Again, she refused. He reached in to get her or the cell phone, and she resisted. She told him, "Don't touch me!"

Then he pulled the taser gun out and asked her a few more times to step out of the car, and again, she repeatedly refused. she continued talking on the phone, disregarding what the cop was instructing her to do.

Randy

She can sue for battery after she submits to public caning for driving with a suspended license. I bet if this woman rear-ended one of our Porsches and then drove off, we'd all be whining,"Why are people like this still on the road."

Randy, I'm sure you realize by now that any use of force is totally unnacceptable to some folks. The hand-wringing ninnies out there simply do not understand there is a time to shut up and listen to some one in authority, and to do EVERYTHING they tell you to do. With respect and without hesitation. This woman was probably raised by parents who subscibed to all the modern theories on child raising. She has never had to submit to authority (it would stifle her creativity, after all) and has never been told "no" (it would de-value her self-worth, after all). We are surrounded by folks like her today, and they will all chime in, with feet stamping in their whiney voices "he can't do that!!". They will be the next ones he has to taser. Too bad tasers don't sterilize people...

Hot coffee is not a pleasant thing to pass through your nose...ask me how I know! :eek:

LMAO!!!

Randy

As was said in the original post "with proper discretion". It is a big country out there, with lots of interaction between police and civilians. Thankfully these incidents are so rare, they are newsworthy..

And there are a lot of folks out there who dont interact very well, whose primary understanding of the rules of society is Jerry Springer and the rest of the crap on TV.

That being said, I see most of these non-violent incidents as the failure of police. Too many do not have the force of personality to prevent these situations. If a civilian does not follow the instructions of a police officer, but is not harming themselves or others, that is not the time to reach for the taser..

Jeff, is your whole world in black and white? If so, I hope you're not a cop, because beeing able to see shades of gray is a job requirement.

My knee jerk was that he shouldn't have used the taser. After reviewing some of the other video's, I've changed my mind. She was resisting their efforts to remove her from her car, ignored all his commands, ignored his ample and clear warnings and even struck at the other officer. I say tase away...

- Skip

Yeah she was mouthy and resistant from the get-go. Jeff was right when he said "...there is a time to shut up and listen to some one in authority, and to do EVERYTHING they tell you to do. With respect and without hesitation... "

I also believe that cops need to proceed as though each and every situation puts them at risk. If they have to be heavy-handed then so be it. She was specifically warned *several times* that she would be tazed. How effen stupid can you be?

Having said all that, I'm not sure I'm comfortable with teh second "hit". Could it be that she was in so much pain that she couldn't put her hands behind her back? That second hit doesn't seem right. Then again, it's pretty damn easy to say that, sitting at my desk in my house.

The tazer was justified.

That woman needed a good tasing. Bet she listens to the cop next time.

So what if the woman was on the phone with her attorney? ... does the cop have the right to "interupt" that conversation with a taze?

From what I've seen, cops have the luxury of time on their side. (sitting by the road-side, just waiting, and waiting for something . ..)

Cops that are quick to feel dis'd are not the ones who should be on the job. I mean really, the woman wasn't exactly going anywhere, or threatening anyone.

But I suppose that doesn't matter; the guy armed with a tasser was mift, and he has a badge. Not to mention; he likely had lot of other looming "appointments" scheduled for the day. :rolleyes:

Tazers are nasty. Tazer use is SUPPOSED to be for public safety. .. .NOT a cop-tool of "shut up and listen to MY authority, do EVERYTHING I tell you to do. . . .With respect and without hesitation. " -- again, where was she going?

When I was 18 I was pulled over around 11pm for speeding (45mph in 30, it was a 1973 Land Rover 88) and the girl with me started crying and getting hysterical. I was digging around the door pocket for registration and telling her to calm down. The officer came up and saw my movements and heard the girl crying. Her drew his weapon and shouted some instruction that I IMMEDIATELY heeded. I almost crapped myself. He took me into his vehicle’s front seat and gave me a dressing down. Not threatening or demeaning, just a thorough explanation of everything I did wrong. He went back to the truck and spoke to the girl and insured she was ok. Gave me a warning and suggested we go home.

I’ve done things a LOT differently over the years and NEVER had a problem with the police.

That woman got exactly what she earned.
Driving on suspended license (disregard for the law)
Speeding (disregard for the law)
Ignoring officer instruction several times (disrespect)
Attempting to strike an officer

I wonder if she had been drinking as well.

I saw this on the evening new a couple of days ago. I commented to my wife that the woman was stupid. You have to know your license is suspended. If you get pulled over you are looking at big trouble. I should know....

I got pulled over a few weeks back. I knew I had a suspended license. Somehow it was reported to the State that my MINI had no insurance which was wrong. I had to go to the DMV and show the paperwork. I didn't want to go because the DMV is a nighmare so I was procrastinating. I took a corner off of one major road onto another very fast in my RX-7. An unmarked car was nearby and pulled me over.

I knew I was screwed. I was as polite as possible to the cop and asked what was up. He had already run my plate and informed me I had a suspended license. I told him I knew there was a problem but I was unaware it was already suspended. I told him about my insurance yada yada....

He took my license and the tag off my RX-7. Told me to get a ride home and have the car towed home as well. He gave me 2 fix it tickets for no proof of insurance and no registration and let me go.

If I had been an ass to him he could have arrested me and impounded my car.

The FIRST words out of that womans mouth was that the cop pulled her over because he was a racist. She was an idiot from the get go. The Boyton police made sure to use a black guy as a spolesman on the evening news to explain the officer did as he was trained to do. Avoid a physical confrontation and subdue the driver.

I am sure this will become a lawsuit and another idiot will be rewarded for being stupid.

Well that changes my mind. (I couldn't run the videos)
Once tassed (twice) The cops really should have kicked the crap out of her, and then rubbed her face in it. Cops have to inforce their omni-present Supreme power or authority, after all.

:mad: A few years back a woman pulled the same crap as this one, only she put the car in gear and rammed his cruiser, tryibg to run him down, another cop showed up, she rammed him to, then tried to run over the officer who had jumped onto his cruiser, but fell off, the other had no choice but to shoot her dead. Of course the local liberal went crazy (well most are already crazy) but she was doing this at a mall and could have hurt other people.

If you don't want to get shot or tazed, don't break the law and if you get pulled do as you are told, pretty simple isn't it.

Too bad tasers don't sterilize people...

No, no, no, silly boy. You pour it on your lap so you can sue McDonalds! ;)

Randy

Don't mention it. My pleasure. Just glad to help people see the ligh......






WAITAMINUTE! Was that sarcasm? Facetiousness?
D'oh!;)

This reminds me of the BS "respect my authority trooper" in Meet the Fockers. :D Power trippin'!

It is a sad and scary thought that some people who barely got through high school have the authority to use weapons on the public at their discretion. http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_56314.html

Doughnut in one hand, tazer in the other :D.


Like Rallyjon and Moses said, there is a time to use excessive force with a taser, night stick, battering ram, thunder sledge, etc. However I don't see an excuse to use any of those tools in this case. Aside from acting like a b!tch, I couldn't see anything really threatening in her behavior. What if that was your mother, sister, wife, or girlfriend who just had a crappy day? How would you feel then?

LOL, Don.

Yeah, I debated whether to include the rolly-eyes. (glad it was overt enough);)

My only point is it's a fine balance for our cops.

She may have been inviting a nasty responce from the cop(s), but really; who is supposed to be professional here.? . ..the idiot woman, or the "trained proffesional'?

While we're all just MMQB'ing here, it's not good to just say it's okay for cops to zap people into convulsive submission for their dissmisive behaivor.

That's how I saw it.

The old wisdom was; "Act like as ass, and I'll write you up for everything possible." Now it's "Act like an ass and I'll sear your central nervous system and watch you crap your pants." Beautiful.

And remember, this is all about a
suspended license.

Don't act like an ass, don't have a problem. Real simple. See the red lights going, the guy with the badge and gun, the shotgun in the front window of his car? If she can't figure out how to be polite and keep her trap shut at this point, how about no more driving for her, ever?

I'm glad she got nailed; maybe it will keep a little one from getting run down and spare someone a lot of pain.

And after the inital yelp when she got tazed, it just went on and on like a bad porno, all the screaming just done for the camera.

Exactly! (and said much better :D ) . . .from a safe distance, of course.

What next? ....Cop:"He failed to signal; and when I got the Porsche-driving, anti-signalite pulled-over, he sneared at me from his snooty little sports car.. ." ....zZAPPPP!!!!

This is a very bad slippery slope to be on.

Cop:" We're sorry your mother is dead, but she just wouldn't put her cell phone down."

Florida has had 17 Tazer related deaths since 2000.

Well, I got pulled over Sunday nigh for having a head light out, and it turned out a brake light (cracked 964 lamp, corroded connection, new pair just came in from Fed-ex) Now, being a holiday weekend he could have been a dick, but I was polite, did as instructed and made sure my hands stayed in plain sight. I got a fix-it ticket for the head light and was on my way. Funny, I hit a bump and the head light came back on:rolleyes:

As stated, a car can be a weapon, so what would you do if you were in the Policeman's shoes?? I would like to hear from those who protect & serve have to say??

A question for the nay sayers: What would you have done? Just get back in your cop car and leave because she obviously doesn't have time for you right now? Continue to plead with her and cajole her into cooporation? For how long? Give me a break. She broke the law; it his his job to stop her and talk to her about that, and possibly to ticket or arrest her. He gave her every reasonable chance to cooporate. You are all great Monday morning quarterbacks, but seriously, what would you have done?

http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/clap.gif It really is that simple.http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/...s/beerchug.gif

All could have been avoided if they hadn't been been breaking the law and followed instructions. You forget to mention the fact that those who died had large amounts of drugs in their systems. FL. is better off without them. Break into my home, I shoot you dead, no if ands or buts, those 17 made the choices that cost them their lives and they paid dearly for them.

It usually is.

Just out of curiosity, how many vehicular deaths in Fla due to things like Cell Phones, alcohol, drugs?

It just got me to thinking...Getting potentially dangerous distracted and highly excitable people off the road might just save some innocent lives a few minutes later.

Kill'em . . kill'em all. MUHAhahahaha [/crazed loon]


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my maama always sayz; simple is as simple duz [/gump]