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dd74 06-06-2005 02:08 PM

Well, say goodbye to the Power PC. Apple is going to Intel
 
Maybe it was inevitable...

http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/06/06/powerpcintel/index.php

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/06/06/apple_intel_analysis/

stevepaa 06-06-2005 02:22 PM

Man, what am I going to do with my little Intel man hanging in effigy near my Mac.

I guess I'll get him a little horse to ride.

techweenie 06-06-2005 02:42 PM

IBM/Motorola failed to deliver 3GHz processors for nearly 2 years after promising to do so.

Apple has been running OSX internally on Intel processors for 5 years, just to avoid a sincle-source dependency.

The entire presentation made by Steve Jobs today at his Developers Conference was run on a Pentium.

dd74 06-06-2005 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
IBM/Motorola failed to deliver 3GHz processors for nearly 2 years after promising to do so.

Apple has been running OSX internally on Intel processors for 5 years, just to avoid a sincle-source dependency.


Yeah, that's what the second article stated. Already, OSX has been ported to Intel. And Intel is supposedly whipping IBM/Motorola's butt these days with processor speed.

I imagine with this change, a lot of Mac specialists will be...um...looking to re-certify themselves...

This could, ultimately, spell a problem for Windows, though. But Apple's going to have to act quickly because the next Windows, called Longhorn, is due out at the end of 2006.

Still, it'd be cool to see a Mac OS boot up on a Wintel machine.

By the way, anyone know of any screenshots out there on the Internet that shows what the Longhorn GUI will look like?

dd74 06-06-2005 03:00 PM

Well, if CNN is reporting it, it must be true...

http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/05/technology/wsj.apple.intel.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes

techweenie 06-06-2005 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dd74
By the way, anyone know of any screenshots out there on the Internet that shows what the Longhorn GUI will look like?
Rumor says OSX and Longhorn are difficult to distinguish visually.

I wouldn't be holding my breath for Longhorn. Remember, Windows was 19 months late to market and unuseable until version 3.X.

techweenie 06-06-2005 03:04 PM

The initial market reaction to this news is not positive.

dd74 06-06-2005 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
The initial market reaction to this news is not positive.
On whose end? Mac, Intel or Microsoft?

techweenie 06-06-2005 03:19 PM

NASDAQ

dd74 06-06-2005 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by techweenie
NASDAQ
Whoa! :eek:

stomachmonkey 06-06-2005 03:35 PM

oh crap!

techweenie 06-06-2005 03:44 PM

AAPL has been hit pretty hard lately, so I don't expect it to drop much below where it is now (under $38).

But it may be a while before it's back up nudging $45.

Glad I bought in at $32 (split-adjusted).

A new series of studies are working their way out showing that Macs are 16% of the personal computer installed base. Meaning that the replacement market has not been as strong as the analysts thought. That, plus the 'halo' effect of iPod sales could bode well for AAPL over the next year. Just watch for building inventories, now that every retailer on the planet is selling iPods.

BlueSkyJaunte 06-06-2005 05:12 PM

Man, I scooped you by three hours. Asleep at the "switch" today are we? ;)

dd74 06-06-2005 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by BlueSkyJaunte
Man, I scooped you by three hours. Asleep at the "switch" today are we? ;)
I've got 11 more replies. 12 if you include this one. ;)

BlueSkyJaunte 06-06-2005 06:53 PM

:p

jaysonx 06-06-2005 06:55 PM

I wonder if this will pave the eventual way of having MacOSX installable on all PC's?

jyl 06-06-2005 07:00 PM

Apple said today that Mac OS will only run on Apple machines.

They have done the "clone Mac" thing before, it was one of the first things that Jobs killed when he returned.

One reasons Macs work so well is that Apple is responsible for the whole thing - hardware and operating system and increasingly the software too. With PCs you have Intel making the chip and Dell making the box and Microsoft making the O/S and whoever making the application and you end up hunting all over for the missing driver or patch.

BlueSkyJaunte 06-06-2005 07:25 PM

Quote:

After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that."
However, Schiller said the company does not plan to let people run Mac OS X on other computer makers' hardware. "We will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac."
(from http://macslash.org/ )

bryanthompson 06-06-2005 10:30 PM

Woohoo! i was there for the announcement. "It's Tru[sub]e[/sub]" came up on the screen and half of the crowd clapped and seemed excited, and the rest were either disappointed or unsure. The whole rest of the day was spent miling about the crowd, and everyone has their own opinion and idea for what's going to be the first mac to ship with intel chips.

It was cool though, the machine he was using to demo dashboard and spotlight, etc., was running an intel chip, and it worked well. He launched tons of apps, photoshop, etc., and it worked fine.. unlike Gates' demos that give the BSOD :)

Tomorrow I'm going to go play with one of the intel tiger boxes. A few of the developers I'm here with have already made the modifications to get their apps working on the intel machines... it took them maybe an hour to recompile and do what they needed. The CEO of mathematica was there and told us that he had one developer out over the weekend and they got it modified for the Intel box in 2 hours.

Apps that haven't been recompiled will run under Rosetta, and the user will never know that it's pretending to be a PPC. He ran Word and Works as a demo of this, and they were pretty snappy. Photoshop did take a while to load plugins, but after that he was able to do stuff.

It's so badass to look around and see almost 4,000 other programmers, all with powerbooks. it's just wild.

BlueSkyJaunte 06-06-2005 10:41 PM

How many Newtons in view? ;)


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