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VaSteve 06-11-2005 02:45 PM

Know anything about spontaneous combustion?
 
I bought a couple too many bags of mulch 2 weeks ago and have sat them out next to the house. I opened one today and the contents were really hot - no s- , it had been sitting in the sun...

Anyhow I was wondering if there is any chance these could spontaneously combust? I'm not a big agriculatural type so I don't know what does/does not do that....grain, I think...what else?

350HP930 06-11-2005 03:01 PM

If the wood chips are treated with oil it would be possible, but I would hope that the manufacturer uses a very fire resistant one.

nostatic 06-11-2005 03:15 PM

do they play the drums?

Hugh R 06-11-2005 03:20 PM

Sure, you get it all the time in landfills. Anaerobic decomposition produces methane gas and heat. Underground landfill fires are very common. In a bag in your yard, possible, but not probable. When I read the title of this thread, I thought you were refering to people spontaneously combusting, that must be another thread.

masraum 06-11-2005 03:28 PM

Spontaneous Combustion seems extremely unlikely. If you pour linseed oil all over it you may have a problem, but otherwise I doubt it. I've had mulch sit in bags for a long time and stay hot, but never remotely ready to combust. I don't think a bag of mulch has enough mass/pressure to create enough heat.


I thought this was going to be a spontaneous human combustion thread. I was going to say that they've determined that there's no such thing. It's actually due to wicking and the fat on the body burning.

tdatk 06-11-2005 04:13 PM

Steve,
It is possible and it happened to me in Ohio at work. The landscaper just put down some mulch, commercial stuff, really smelly, and that night my maintenance crew called to tell me the plant beds were on fire all over the place!! I examaned them the next morning and yep, little burned spots all over the place. Hard to believe but it happened.

Eagle Keeper 06-11-2005 04:44 PM

Nostatic, do your amps go to 11?

nostatic 06-11-2005 04:57 PM

no, but my last album was mixed in Dobly

lm6y 06-11-2005 05:32 PM

It's possible. I used a yard Vaccuum on my lawn a few years ago, and put the clippings in my truck. My neighbor was going to till it into his garden for fertilizer. When I dumped the last bag into the truck, it was smoldering. I thought I was going to lose the truck!

VaSteve 06-12-2005 07:27 AM

Thanks guys. I guess I hadd better spread it before it gets hotter.
For those mislead by the title, sorry...but at least I got you t read! :)

RoninLB 06-13-2005 04:04 AM

linseed oil on the old rag should be placed in a sealed metal can.

M.D. Holloway 06-13-2005 08:10 PM

Iv'e hauled siledge (corn mulch) in the winter when I would help my Father-in-law feed the cattle. In 20F weather, that stuff puts off some serious steam. In the summer, it can smulder.

If it gets wet, the decompostion can occur even quicker and the exothermic reaction from the genration of methane - given the right conditions, I would bet it could go up.

djmcmath 06-14-2005 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by masraum
I thought this was going to be a spontaneous human combustion thread.
Is there a way to induce that? You know, in somebody else? I mean, not that I'd have any desire to cause anyone I know to inexplicably burst into flames, but I was just curious, see...

masraum 06-14-2005 06:15 AM

There is no such thing as "spontaneous human combustion." It's been determined that what was previously thought to be "shc" is due to 'a "wicking effect," in which the fatty tissues in the body burn much like the wax of a candle, while clothing acts like a wick.'

http://www.facts-1.com/shc.htm

So, yes, you can burn a body the same way, but it's not 'shc'

targa911S 06-14-2005 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by djmcmath
Is there a way to induce that? You know, in somebody else? I mean, not that I'd have any desire to cause anyone I know to inexplicably burst into flames, but I was just curious, see...
EX- Wife?


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