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Moneyguy1 07-09-2005 12:57 AM

Another "Who said that?"
 
Who said the following:

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."


Sounds kinda familiar, so who said it and when?

Victor 07-09-2005 01:06 AM

A quick google revealed this Q:

"Wasn't that GWB himself when Clinton was in office? I think it was Kosovo."

Moneyguy1 07-09-2005 01:07 AM

Aww...YOu guessed....

BTW..."clan liability"...a very scary tactic of control..

Victor 07-09-2005 01:15 AM

Yes - but effective. The "gas station attendants" would be *****scared of that.

Victor 07-09-2005 01:41 AM

Kosovo was different though. The UN backed us there......

kach22i 07-09-2005 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Victor
Kosovo was different though. The UN backed us there......
........and they didn't have 40% of the world's oil reserves.

Why would we ever leave?

I like my oil, can't live without it.

techweenie 07-09-2005 06:31 AM

Money, haven't you figured out that W violated every single principle he claimed to have as soon as he was elected?

'Fiscal responsibility?' out the window.

Decreasing the size and control of the Federal government? The opposite has happened.

'Nation building' has gone from undesirable to the cornerstone of M.E. policy.

There's a rather large difference between the Republican platform and Republican rule.

cool_chick 07-09-2005 06:51 AM

Good find moneyguy!

And techweenie....couple more things....

Schiavo comments: yet previously signed into law in Texas that removes life support, including tube feeding, if you're poor.

Eminent domain comments: yet previously took advantage of it to build a shiny new stadium (for the common good).

lendaddy 07-09-2005 06:58 AM

Did we ever get one from Clinton? I mean we are still there right? When will we leave? I want answers:)

techweenie 07-09-2005 06:59 AM

CC: yes, there are many more "when was the last time the Right was right" threads possible.

There's a whole "laws are for other people; principles are to be applied at our convenience" ethos underlying neocon behavior.

cool_chick 07-09-2005 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
Did we ever get one from Clinton? I mean we are still there right? When will we leave? I want answers:)

Yeah, I would also like a strategy plan if soldiers and civilians were dying by the minute...

cool_chick 07-09-2005 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
CC: yes, there are many more "when was the last time the Right was right" threads possible.

There's a whole "laws are for other people; principles are to be applied at our convenience" ethos underlying neocon behavior.

The one thing that doesn't work on children or adults alike is the "do as I say, not as I do" approach. Never works.

Leading by example is what's effective for raising children, being in management, and leading a country.

lendaddy 07-09-2005 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cool_chick
Yeah, I would also like a strategy plan if soldiers and civilians were dying by the minute...
Obviously some tongue in cheek going on by me there.

The whole Kosovo deal reminds me of an SNL skit years ago. It was a Hitory channel mock that started with a little boy asking his grandfather "Did we win the war in Grenada pappy?":)

techweenie 07-09-2005 07:28 AM

Not sure what your point is, lendaddy, if you have one at all.

Are you saying Kosovo should have been "managed" like Iraq?

lendaddy 07-09-2005 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
Not sure what your point is, lendaddy, if you have one at all.

Are you saying Kosovo should have been "managed" like Iraq?

Good question, perhaps when we can finally withdraw our troops from Kosovo we can compare results.

techweenie 07-09-2005 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lendaddy
Good question, perhaps when we can finally withdraw our troops from Kosovo we can compare results.
So are you suggesting that the jury is still out on comparing 1,76X+ dead U.S. soldiers to zero dead U.S. soldiers?

And I think you have it backwards. When do you think we'll be out of Iraq?

lendaddy 07-09-2005 07:44 AM

Zero dead? You sure about that?

Anyway, like I said......I thought you can't claim sucess until you leave. Is that not so any longer?

lendaddy 07-09-2005 07:48 AM

Wait, are you saying that the removal of a corrupt and murderous leader is not only reason enough to invade a sovereign nation, but also reason enough to celebrate great success?

techweenie 07-09-2005 07:56 AM

Nice try, but since we don't even have 1,000 troops in harm's way in Kosovo, it's impossible (for a reasonable person) to even begin to compare risk/reward.

Kosovo was and is a NATO mission and, no, there were no U.S. deaths.

The Kosovo invasion was underataken because of an active program of genocide. At no time did the administration have to invent 'threats' to the U.S.

lendaddy 07-09-2005 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by techweenie
Nice try, but since we don't even have 1,000 troops in harm's way in Kosovo, it's impossible (for a reasonable person) to even begin to compare risk/reward.

Kosovo was and is a NATO mission and, no, there were no U.S. deaths.

The Kosovo invasion was underataken because of an active program of genocide. At no time did the administration have to invent 'threats' to the U.S.

First, you are wrong. There were no "combat deaths" Us soldiers did die. Do they count?


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