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Bird strike
Ouch!
http://www.avweb.com/newspics/birdstrikecanada.wmv Pilot and instructor both survived, I hear.
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Their respiration rate sure increases over the time that runs.
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wow... that's crazy. How often does that happen?
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08-15-2005, 07:59 AM
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One pilot got out with minor injuries, the other was hurt fairly bad.
Birds down far more airplanes than is mentioned. They test jet engines by shooting frozen chickens (and larger at times) into the intakes while they are running. They have to continue running and produce a reasonable amount of power for a set time frame. Would rather not have this happen to me. Have hit several birds in my career and so far none of them have shut the engine down... JoeA  
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Joe...you sure they are frozen?
I thought that it was a thawed bird... otherwise its like throwing a solid block of ice at the windshield..... http://www.sae.org/aeromag/techupdate_3-00/05.htm http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/Aerodrome/WildlifeControl/TP13549/Chapter12/Chapter12d.htm |
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Pilots -
Could someone explain that sudden pitch up following the strike? It sounds like they were in a twin. They seemed to regain controlled flight - why did they go down? Oops - just watched it again. I didn't have the speakers turned up high enough to hear "Ejecting to the north..." or the interphone "eject, eject,eject" So military pilots - is the trim such that engine failure during take-off will give you a pitch up like that?
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They did ingestion tests using THAWED chickens. As a matter of fact, "back in the day" the engineers used to canvass the area and ask farmers for any extra LIVE chickens they might have. The practice fell into disuse when the farmers found out what their surplus chickens were being used for. My wife also designed an "ice flinger" that would ramp ice blocks into the engine intake. Don't remember the dimensions of the ice blocks but it was surprisingly significant (much bigger than ice cubes you put in your drink).
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I have seen both thawed and frozen used and it depends on the test. The fun thing is that they shoot it out of an air cannon into the intake of the jet. Lots of feathers and guts coming out of the back end... We called it "shreaded tweet"...
About the nose up pitch, I believe that the pilot may have relaxed his control on the stick when he got busy trying to re-light the engine. Then things happened very fast (remember that it was a student in the front cockpit, with an instructor in back) and it got out of control. Flying is called "hours and hours of boredom followed by moments of sheer terror"... and its correct at times. JoeA
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Jesus Christ what the hell kinda bird was that? Judging by the damage on the second picture it must have been a Condor or a Pterodactyl!
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