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This official Whitehouse bio is as misleading as any partisan blog. Notice there is no mention at all of his ten years (1991-2000) as commissioner of the International Arabian Horses Association. Which occupied half of his working life.
When Brown was appointed General Counsel (i.e. lawyer) for FEMA in Feb 2001, that press release at least said "Brown had previously served for 10 years as commissioner for an equine sports federation" http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=6218 And when the Whitehouse announced Brown's nomination as FEMA Deputy Director in Dec 2001, that press release at least described him as "Commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association, an international subsidiary of the national governing organization of the U.S. Olympic Committee" although the last bit is false (the IAHA was never part of the USOC). http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/12/20011203-6.html I can't find the Whitehouse press release when Brown was promoted from deputy director to Undersecretary for for Emergency Preparedness and Response (i.e. FEMA). So I can't tell you when the Arabian horse decade got dropped from Brown's list of qualifications. Quote:
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I'll leave it to you to decide who destroyed FEMA, but it's clear who blew it big-time in New Orleans:
(Text below is from http://newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/9/4/151327.shtml) "As established by the City of New Orleans Charter, the government has jurisdiction and responsibility in disaster response. City government shall coordinate its efforts through the Office of Emergency Preparedness. The city document also makes clear that decisions involving a proper and orderly evacuation lie with the governor, mayor and local authorities. Nowhere is the president or federal government even mentioned: The authority to order the evacuation of residents threatened by an approaching hurricane is conferred to the Governor by Louisiana Statute. The Governor is granted the power to direct and compel the evacuation of all or part of the population from a stricken or threatened area within the State, if he deems this action necessary for the preservation of life or other disaster mitigation, response or recovery. The same power to order an evacuation conferred upon the Governor is also delegated to each political subdivision of the State by Executive Order. This authority empowers the chief elected official of New Orleans, the Mayor of New Orleans, to order the evacuation of the parish residents threatened by an approaching hurricane. It is clear the city also recognized that it would need to move large portions of its population, and it would need to prepare for such an eventuality: The City of New Orleans will utilize all available resources to quickly and safely evacuate threatened areas. Those evacuated will be directed to temporary sheltering and feeding facilities as needed. When specific routes of progress are required, evacuees will be directed to those routes. Special arrangements will be made to evacuate persons unable to transport themselves or who require specific life saving assistance. Additional personnel will be recruited to assist in evacuation procedures as needed. ... Evacuation procedures for small scale and localized evacuations are conducted per the SOPs of the New Orleans Fire Department and the New Orleans Police Department. However, due to the sheer size and number of persons to be evacuated, should a major tropical weather system or other catastrophic event threaten or impact the area, specifically directed long range planning and coordination of resources and responsibilities efforts must be undertaken. [You can read New Orleans' Emergency Plan for hurricanes at its Web site: http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26] The city's plan also specifically called for the use of city-owned buses and school buses to evacuate the population. These were apparently never deployed, though the Parish of Plaquemines just south of the city evacuated its population using school buses. The plan, written well before Katrina was even a teardrop in God's eye, was obviously never heeded or implemented by local leaders. But why should the New Orleans mayor and Governor Blanco take responsibility when they can blame George Bush and the Republicans in Washington? With congressional elections fast approaching, Democrats who are out of power in every branch of the federal government know they need to change the tide quickly. They have apparently seized on the Katrina disaster to harm the president politically. Criticism of the federal government's response is fair and warranted. But putting full responsibility for this disaster on the Bush administration is way over the top. Primary responsibility for this disaster remains with local officials like Nagin and Blanco, not President Bush." |
"Criticism of the federal government's response is fair and warranted. But putting full responsibility for this disaster on the Bush administration is way over the top."
I'd agree with this. |
The maintenance of the levies are Army Corps. That is federal. They were supposed to hold for a category 3 hurricane. That in itself was inadequate. The hurricane in New Orleans wasn't at category 3 strength when it hit. The wind speeds were category 2. If you recall New Orleans didn't take a direct hit. For many hours after the hurricane had past the reports were coming back that New Orleans was spared from the worst.
At the last census it was revealed that 1/3rd of the households of New Orleans had no cars. Why didn't the city start up the busses and take the people out of there? That is a good question. Another good question is where would you take them? To the edge of town? Above sea level? There are some serious logistical problems with the "where to take them" part. Maybe it was written someplace I don't know about but I was hearing reports of hotels being pretty well booked up all over the area. the problem of the levies are different from the problem of a blizzard. Or even a drought in Las Vegas. It's more like if the Hoover dam sprung a leak because it wasn't maintained. Imagine if the government decided to stop funding the Hoover dam and a few years later it collapsed. Who could we blame? In Hitler's last days, when he refused to surrender to the Russians as Berlin was falling, some of his generals pleaded with him, What about the civilians, what about the German people? Hitler said, We have a mandate. This is what the German people wanted, If they get their throats cut they only have themselves to blame. Nobody can predict the weather. But in time a hurricane was going to hit New Orleans. That was a pretty good bet. I have a question if anybody can put the puzzle together. At what point did the super dome and the convention centers become evacuation sites? Before the levies broke or after? How many hours after the levies broke and it was clear the city was a total loss did it take for the Feds to step in and get the people out of there? The hurricane struck on Monday? I heard that the city was finally evacuated and basically under control today. That is the biggest failure right there. That is the most disgraceful part of it to me. And hey! I heard Haliburton got the clean up contract... Imagine that! |
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I certainly agree with you that Brown's tenure as commissioner of judging for the International Arabian Horse Association is a "less impressive/less relevant/position". Alas, that may have been the most impressive part of his work experience. |
Perhaps you should check out Mayor Ray Nagin's bio...and discuss his qualifications to lead a city through a natural disaster..or even a serious traffic accident. after all, the primary responsibilty for response, evacuation, etc for a disaster in New Orleans is Mr. Nagin...by his own disaster plan.
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Nagin was elected - competence and election often appear to be inversely correlated.
(edit) For the record, I can't decide if he is culpable or not. Probably not. He certainly came across as sincere - in his anger, frustration and sadness at what happened. |
Agreed. Makes it a bit more clear that electing the person who offers to deliver more of someone else's money is not always the best path. Perhaps a conservative will be elected next time.
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Why? So budgets for unimportant stuff like levees can be cut?
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Good try, but....Nagin and the city did not provide their portion of the funds needed for the levee....so effectively, he is the one who made the cut.
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One of the projects administered under FEMA is the Stafford Act, I believe, which is 75% funding for projects to preclude disaster damage.
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That said, don't mistake me for a defender of Mayor Nagin or the local authorities. I suspect they'll catch hell too. Hard questions will be asked about unused buses, inadequately stocked shelters, and police radios that failed. [Yawn] Flew the red-eye, in a NYC cab this morning. Blame my typos on no sleep. |
You know the expression "Support the Troops "?
Well; support the FEMA workers. Just sent to me from somebody I know - thought you would find this perspective interesting: Most people that I know are very angry with the Hurricane Katrina situation. There are problems at all levels of local, state, and federal government that made the situation what it is. These things are rarely one persons fault, people on all levels have failed to serve us. The distribution of power and wealth in this semi-democratic republic has failed to serve us. The President has failed to serve us. Our Congress and its policies have failed to serve us. The War in Iraq sucking up all of our money and able bodied service people & equipment has failed to serve us. The structure of the new Incident Command System has failed to serve us. The fact that FEMA has been gobbled up by DHS, its budget cut in half, its power tremendously decreased, its bureaucracy increased by DHS protocol, its permanent staff fired because of "budget cuts", and 95% of its staff being only "on-call" has failed to serve us. The state government of Louisiana and its lack of knowledge of "how these things work", "who & when to call", and fears about giving the feds too much power in their state has failed to serve us. The county and local officials being completely out of it and quitting their jobs on the spot during at time of need has failed to serve us. Able bodied people fully capable of leaving (i.e. having means & health) who elected not to leave have failed us (I am not talking about the very poor or hospital confined). The situation is more complex than we realize and no amount of reading accounts in newspapers or watching TV reports will reveal the true nature of things. There are many at fault, most of whom never would have guessed their contributions or lack thereof would lead to this mess. I am sure that no one wanted this--especially those who got into emergency management for more humanitarian reasons. I would like to make a personal request--please be careful when assigning blame to specific government agencies & officials when it comes to the Katrina situation. I make this request for multiple reasons--some of which is selfish. I have been warned that individuals are verbally and physically attacking FEMA employees because they feel that FEMA is responsible for all of the problems. Individual FEMA workers are being harassed and assaulted because people want someone to take their frustrations out on. My coworkers and I are very low in the power structure, we do not wish to be punished or harmed because of our desire to assist disaster recovery. FEMA employees are going to spend many months (even years) away from friends, families, and homes to work on disaster recovery in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. This is NOT something that most people are willing or prepared to do. Disaster recovery is very hard thankless work and those who participate do so because they believe in the mission. I am going to XXXXXXX XXXXXXX on Wednesday and I am asking you to take a deeper look at your words and emails to others on the matter. Please do not contribute to hatred of government workers involved in disaster recovery-instead consider how you can help promote change in a constructive manor while exposing the weakness inherent in the existing system. Thank you. |
WAYS TO HELP HURRICANE KATRINA VICTIMS
PLEASE NOTE: According to the Red Cross "Unsolicited, spontaneous donations of goods and services from individuals and community groups, although well intentioned, have hidden costs and pose a number of complications for initial relief efforts." Donations of goods & services are best when they come from companies/organizations that can provide new items in a quantity that meets the mass care needs of victims. --DONATE MONEY TO LEGITIMATE CHARITIES INVOLVED IN DISASTER RECOVERY Red Cross 1-800-HELP NOW https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp AmeriCares 1-800-486-HELP (4357) https://www.americares.org/Donate/default.aspx?jump=Sidebar Operation USA 1-800-678-7255 http://www.operationusa.org/ United Way (call local chapter and donate to Hurricane Katrina Response Fund) http://national.unitedway.org/ Operation Blessing 1-800-730-2537 http://www.ob.org/ Second Harvest National Food Bank 1-800-771-2303 http://www.secondharvest.org/ Salvation Army 1-800-SAL-ARMY http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/ Corporation for National and Community Service (specify Disaster Relief Fund) http://www.nationalservice.gov/about/donations/index.asp --BONUS FOR DONORS, AIRLINES MILES GIVEN FOR CASH DONATIONS United Airlines will give you 500 frequent flyer miles if you donate $50 to the Red Cross, AmeriCares, or Operation USA. http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,51350,00.html?navSource=SidebarPro#jump1 American Airlines will give you 500 bonus miles if you donate $50 to the Red Cross. http://www.aa.com/apps/netSAAver/ViewPromotionsDetail.jhtml?fileName=A0805_Hurrican eRelief.xml&repositoryName=PromotionContentReposit ory&itemDescriptor=PromotionContent&anchorLocation =Homepage_Top Northwest Airlines will give you 500 bonus miles if you donate $50 to the Red Cross, AmeriCares, Second Harvest, or the Salvation Army http://www.nwa.com/corpinfo/aircares/partners/ --DONATE FREQUENT FLIER AIRLINE MILES TO CHARITIES, HELPS DEFRAY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH TRANSPORTATION OF VOLUNTEERS & VICTIMS Red Cross works with America West, Continental, Delta, Northwest, and United http://www.redcross.org/donate/donatemiles.html AmeriCares works with Continental, United and Northwest Airlines http://www.americares.org/HowToHelp/?id=8 United Way works with Delta http://unitedwayatl.org/e0-skymiles.asp Salvation Army works with United and Northwest (call to donate miles: 1-800-421-4655) http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/www_usn.nsf/vw-sublinks/31DBBB77B5F1CCDD85256E6E006BC6F5?openDocument Second Harvest works with Northwest --DONATE BLOOD TO THE RED CROSS --VOLUNTEER TO HELP FUTURE LONG TERM RECOVERY EFFORTS PLEASE NOTE: Volunteers should not report directly to the affected areas unless directed by a voluntary agency. Self-dispatched volunteers can put themselves and others in harm’s way and hamper rescue efforts. National Voluntary Organizations Active In Disasters http://www.nvoad.org/ Note: I'm giving money to some people I know, to give to some people they know - who I'm told I met at a wedding once and have lost everything. |
According to the report I just saw... Vast numbers still refusing to leave. Gun fire still hampering the evacuation.
- Skip |
If a neighbor's houose burns down, the community comes together to help them. As a nation, we believe in taking care of each other. But when a major city is destroyed, we can't just put some clothes in a bag for the family and have a house-raising party. At a time like this, we depend on government. Those of you with the nasty, sub-human suggestion that this is a local problem and the people of NO should take care of themselves, I categorially dismiss your embarrasing suggestion. We need government for a variety of functions, and this is one of them. Right now, our government is working very poorly in every area.
Apologize and deflect blame all you want, Republicans. The nation is getting a good like at what a Republican administration and Congress is like, and remembering why they have historically preferred Democrats. At least they understand what government's role is, and how to administer it. |
Supe- Yeah right... We're all mad because the federal government is helping NO. :rolleyes: You need to get a grip. What's embarrassing is that you would post such nonsense.
- Skip |
Huh? I don't get your comment, Skip. Government should help NO. My comment was directed toward the "let them take care of themselves" crowd and the "why don't you personally go down there and feed the homeless" crowd. You might still think I'm out of touch. I think those comments are out of touch. We need government. Fire, police, coordination of relief efforts. We used to use FEMA for that. I wonder if Tom Ridge has decided what part of his record-setting colossal bureaucracy is going to do what. Right now, I think the "administration" is a bunch of "what do we do now?" guys.
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Supe- You don't get my comment? You accuse us of a "nasty, sub-human suggestion that this is a local problem and the people of NO should take care of themselves" - which is STUPID. Everyone knows the feds are needed to help with this disaster.
edit: So that I'm clear... No one is mad that the feds are helping NO! |
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